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Old 18 Oct 2009, 23:44 (Ref:2564150)   #1201
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Old 19 Oct 2009, 01:22 (Ref:2564191)   #1202
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Old 19 Oct 2009, 01:45 (Ref:2564203)   #1203
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Was a great result for Webber. Actually was also a good result for Vettel considering where he qualified.

Well done to Jensen, he didn't wilt under the pressure after all... and he did enough to earn the title.
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Old 19 Oct 2009, 02:30 (Ref:2564217)   #1204
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Strong win.

Webber for WDC '10 ?

Not implausible, certainly unlikely... Let's see if Newey turns out a Toyota/Renault/Cosworth/Mercedes/Ferrari/Asiatech powered rocket.
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Old 19 Oct 2009, 04:07 (Ref:2564237)   #1205
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...if Vettel faulters in the last two GPs he needs to be there to take the win or bluntly hand Vettel a position in final pit stops etc.
Phase I of Mission Redemption complete. Lets see if Webber can now take the final result away from Vettel in Abu Dhabi! Coem on Webz!
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Old 19 Oct 2009, 04:36 (Ref:2564242)   #1206
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Yeah,

Whats going to be under the engine cowl come 2010, is merc still on the cards?? Or are RBR going Cossi with KERS?? Mabye a switch to Ferrai and leave STR with Cossi??
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My gut feeling is Renault again. Alot of the comments I have been hearing or reading from Red Bull are starting to talk the Renault up again, I think even Webber mentioned it in the post race conference.
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Old 19 Oct 2009, 13:10 (Ref:2564618)   #1208
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Yeh it certainly looks to be sticking with Renault.

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Yeh it certainly looks to be sticking with Renault.

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I have read (Joe Seward) that McLaren have copped the needle about Merc's love affair with Brawn and have veto'd Merc supplying Red Bull.
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After Abu Dhabi, can we agree that in the races Vettel and Webber have been quite evenly matched, Vettel didn't destroy Webber the way lots of people thought he would, then close the thread and regroup for Webber vs Vettel 2010?
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After Abu Dhabi, can we agree that in the races Vettel and Webber have been quite evenly matched, Vettel didn't destroy Webber the way lots of people thought he would, then close the thread and regroup for Webber vs Vettel 2010?
Here Here #1211 Posts, 1 F1 Season and Still No Definate Answer to the Question, bring on 2010. However i still doubt we will be any closer. I'm still liking the Beard Off Idea
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Mr Vettel has more points, will finish higher in the championship, has more wins than Potsie. These are the facts.

Doesnt make Potsie a dunce though...
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Mr Vettel has more points, will finish higher in the championship, has more wins than Potsie. These are the facts.

Doesnt make Potsie a dunce though...
Cetainly neither driver lost any value in 2009, and I suppose we can still look forward to next race to see if Webber can square the ledger in race wins or not.

They do win the best driver package in my mind though and everyone will again be interested in who can come out on top next year!
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Mark held his own against Sebastian this year (even if Sebastian seems to have the greater ultimate pace), and considering people were touting Sebastian as a future great before the season began, this can't have done Mark's stock any harm.
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The thing that I find interesting about their respective performances this year is that going into the season Webber was known as a qualifying ace, yet he has been comprehensively out-qualified by Vettel.

On the other hand, people said that Mark's race pace was not as good as his qualifying, yet this year it has been much better and at times outstanding. He did a great job last Sunday, for example, even if it was understandably overshadowed by other events.

The concern for Mark is that when Vettel doesn't make mistakes in races or suffer from unreliability he is pretty awesome and can only get better.
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Perhaps so, but as with all hot tips for the future, we don't know when they've reached their potential for a while. He may be almost there, or there already.
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He may be on the way down!
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What I mean though is that most drivers show their ultimate speed quite early on. They don't get that much quicker, even in F1. This might be as quick as Vettel gets.
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This might be as quick as Vettel gets.
He doesn't need any more pace - he needs experience and mechanical reliability. More of either and the title could have gone his way this season.
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Quite. Better to be quick and reckless. Easier to learn how to calm down than how to be quick.
However, I think Vettel has a lot of rough edges at the moment. Probably not in speed, as you say.
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I certainly wasn't thinking he needed much more speed. I still think the jury's out a bit on him. He's not that much quicker than Webber, who no-one rates as one of the greatest (although I rate him very highly).

Oh dear- I think I just opened that can of worms again.
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If "he's not much quicker than Webber" then it is no wonder that "no-one rates as one of the greatest".
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Well I give that round to Webber as a 10 - 8 over Vettel, with Vettel still ahead on points overall on my judges scorecards.

Final round coming up, and it looks like not even a knock down will be enough to see Webber as the better driver for 2009.

This last one will be for pride.
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