BTCC Season Finale! Brands Hatch GP, 7/8 October, Rds. 28/29/30

SSmith · 2 Oct 2023, 18:20 (Ref:4179285)

Its season finale time! Will Sutton clinch the title in Race 1, Race 2, or Race 3? Can Ingram pull off the ultimate comeback?

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Championship as we enter Brands Hatch GP
Sutton - 398
Ingram - 353

The Jack Sears Trophy is relatively close
Watson - 410
Doble - 392
Osborne - 378
Patterson - 365
Pearson - 359

In the Supports:
Porsche Carrera Cup GB - Pro Champion = Adam Smalley; Am Champion = Justin Sherwood; Pro-Am is a battle between Max Bird (106) and Ross Wylie (88), Bird is highly likely to claim the title in Race 1 as there's only 24 points up for grabs this weekend.

Porsche Sprint Challenge GB - Pro Class is between Joe Warhurst (100), Steve Roberts (93), Max Coates (88), Matthew Armstrong (80) [34 points available]. Am Class is between Marc Warren (143) and Callum Davis (112), Warren should wrap up the title in R1.

MINI Challenge JCW - Dan Zelos (759) vs Will Orton (658). Zelos is the favourite, but with the very generous points system (50 for a win, 6 for pole, 6 for fastest lap) it is still possible for Orton to win the championship.

British F4 - this is ultra-close. Louis Sharp (331) vs William Macintyre (330), this one should go right to the wire.

Pickles · 3 Oct 2023, 11:08 (Ref:4179398)

James Gornall replaces Jack Butel for the season finale at Brands:

https://www.team-hard.com/gornall-re...Z4udJALnawm5TY

Evantra · 3 Oct 2023, 11:13 (Ref:4179401)

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Originally Posted by Pickles

James Gornall replaces Jack Butel for the season finale at Brands:

https://www.team-hard.com/gornall-re...Z4udJALnawm5TY

No mention of why, whether Butel has split with the team or something’s just come up.

Either way, glad to see Gornall back, definitely one of many that should’ve had a better chance in the BTCC.

tocatrucky · 3 Oct 2023, 11:16 (Ref:4179402)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

No mention of why, whether Butel has split with the team or something’s just come up.

A sponsor pulling out probably.

billy bleach · 3 Oct 2023, 13:48 (Ref:4179440)

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Originally Posted by tocatrucky

A sponsor pulling out probably.

He lives on Jersey so I doubt money is an issue!

Mike Harte · 3 Oct 2023, 13:59 (Ref:4179448)

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Originally Posted by billy bleach

He lives on Jersey so I doubt money is an issue!

Not everyone who lives on the Channel Islands are millionaires or from a family of the uber rich.

Adamcas87 · 3 Oct 2023, 15:47 (Ref:4179476)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

No mention of why, whether Butel has split with the team or something’s just come up.

No and still no mention on why Hamilton left

thetool · 3 Oct 2023, 16:40 (Ref:4179481)

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Originally Posted by Adamcas87

No and still no mention on why Hamilton left

Hamilton left because he was asked to find significantly more money for the remainder of the reason and wouldn't/couldn't.

ChrisA · 3 Oct 2023, 17:05 (Ref:4179484)

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Originally Posted by thetool

Hamilton left because he was asked to find significantly more money for the remainder of the reason and wouldn't/couldn't.

He was asked that question at Silverstone, and said he would be back next season. I wonder if big brother is helping out?

Pickles · 3 Oct 2023, 17:22 (Ref:4179487)

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Originally Posted by thetool

Hamilton left because he was asked to find significantly more money for the remainder of the reason and wouldn't/couldn't.

Just a shame he decided to make that decision 2 minutes before FP1, having driven all the way up to Croft.

redshoes · 3 Oct 2023, 11:22 (Ref:4179404)

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Originally Posted by Pickles

James Gornall replaces Jack Butel for the season finale at Brands:

https://www.team-hard.com/gornall-re...Z4udJALnawm5TY

Was Rob Huff not available?

tocatrucky · 5 Oct 2023, 09:10 (Ref:4179758)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

Was Rob Huff not available?

Available, Tony can't afford him. I've heard from people internally the Knockhill fee he requested was £25k and after driving the car it went up to £35k per weekend. Rob was not impressed with neither the team nor the machinery.

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Originally Posted by Pickles

Just a shame he decided to make that decision 2 minutes before FP1, having driven all the way up to Croft.

It wasn't Nic's decision. One of the sponsors in the package the team brought to the table didn't cough up. The team were repeatedlu strung along until it was obvious the delay wasn't a ''banking problem'' like they'd been told.

redshoes · 5 Oct 2023, 11:09 (Ref:4179764)

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Originally Posted by tocatrucky

Available, Tony can't afford him. I've heard from people internally the Knockhill fee he requested was £25k and after driving the car it went up to £35k per weekend. Rob was not impressed with neither the team nor the machinery.

My comment was slightly tongue in cheek

A driver asking HARD for more money than originally agreed? My, how the tables have turned!

Evantra · 3 Oct 2023, 14:35 (Ref:4179457)

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Originally Posted by Pickles

James Gornall replaces Jack Butel for the season finale at Brands:

https://www.team-hard.com/gornall-re...Z4udJALnawm5TY

Didn’t realise he was 39!

thetool · 3 Oct 2023, 11:11 (Ref:4179400)

Only the 11 drivers for Team HARD this season.

Matt_123 · 3 Oct 2023, 11:31 (Ref:4179405)

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Originally Posted by thetool

Only the 11 drivers for Team HARD this season.

Yh i've just had a look at the btcc 2023 wikipedia page, and only Patterson and Lloyd are gonna complete the season, as was Butel before today.

And yes i forgot Nicolas Hamilton started the season at team Hard too.

redshoes · 3 Oct 2023, 11:48 (Ref:4179408)

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Originally Posted by thetool

Only the 11 drivers for Team HARD this season.

10th. 11 if you count Bobby Thompson twice.

thetool · 3 Oct 2023, 12:12 (Ref:4179415)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

10th. 11 if you count Bobby Thompson twice.

Indeed. Hadn't noticed that HARD entered Thompson under a different team name when he came back.

coffinpilot · 3 Oct 2023, 12:06 (Ref:4179413)

Rinse and repeat I would think.
Sounds like a legacy of the extra money the drivers were supposedly asked for earlier this year not being paid.
Was it concussion when Butel missed the Brands finale a few years back?

Evantra · 3 Oct 2023, 12:27 (Ref:4179424)

Does that also count Harrison at the mid-season test!

EastonNeston · 4 Oct 2023, 10:31 (Ref:4179588)

I'd say the fact the team had failed to do any preperation on the car, so it was not fit to run, together with their demands for additional sums, above the contractually agreed amount may have had a influence on the situation.
Effectively the team were in breach of contract.

Sodemo · 4 Oct 2023, 12:38 (Ref:4179605)

Ticket prices are a bit more reasonable, £34 for race day.

fergus_r · 4 Oct 2023, 13:03 (Ref:4179615)

It’s also the first major meeting with the new catchfencing at Paddock Hill Bend, which is no doubt going to surprise (and infuriate) a lot of people!

**BertMk2** · 6 Oct 2023, 10:29 (Ref:4179965)

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Originally Posted by fergus_r

It’s also the first major meeting with the new catchfencing at Paddock Hill Bend, which is no doubt going to surprise (and infuriate) a lot of people!

Yep, it's awful.

Evantra · 4 Oct 2023, 14:10 (Ref:4179630)

If we don’t get a first-time winner this weekend, when was the last season that happened? (It may well be recent it feels very unusual!)

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