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Old 28 Mar 2005, 15:14 (Ref:1263552)   #1
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Formula 3 Season Running Costs

Just out of interest and for future reference, how much would it cost to run a season in the British Formula 3 Championship? Taking in to account accident repair etc. And how much in a percentage would you ask your sponsor to give you of the budget? Sorry if this is in the wrong place but i was unsure where to put it.
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Old 28 Mar 2005, 15:24 (Ref:1263555)   #2
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And how much in a percentage would you ask your sponsor to give you of the budget?

100% hopefully!
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Old 28 Mar 2005, 17:09 (Ref:1263609)   #3
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a lot bloody big slice, if not all.
thats what a sponsor is all about, (true sponsor) take the glory and take the bad days as when there come.
it,s a gamble, hopefully more glory days than bad.
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Old 28 Mar 2005, 21:46 (Ref:1263814)   #4
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kickstart should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Budget maybe £300 - £500k
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Old 29 Mar 2005, 07:35 (Ref:1263997)   #5
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£300 seems quite cheap!
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Old 29 Mar 2005, 08:18 (Ref:1264027)   #6
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Budget maybe £300 - £500k
It always amazes me for a formula that gets little media exposure and attendence figures there are so many cars on the grid. I assume there must be lots of wealthy parents who stump up the £300k plus, which again I dont think can be justified.

I reckon it could be done competitively for ALOT less.
Also regulations could help reduce costs too.
I mean 120 sets of tyres a season is getting a bit silly.

Hopefully SRO are slowly getting the hint that British F3 is getting too expensive.

I would like to see the day that £200k would get you a top drive and the scholarship class running separate grids and only spending £100k.
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Old 29 Mar 2005, 08:31 (Ref:1264042)   #7
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1) Take what you can get from a sponsor, as they are few and far apart!
2) Great concept, but as racing is all about making money for suppliers and organisers and the competitor is a side consideration, no hope. Besides then all the spoilt rich kids would have too much competition. They like to be able to buy championships, its good for the ego!
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Old 29 Mar 2005, 16:40 (Ref:1264418)   #8
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I reckon it could be done competitively for A LOT less.
Also regulations could help reduce costs too.
I mean 120 sets of tyres a season is getting a bit silly.
Suggest you get up to date with your info!
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Old 29 Mar 2005, 18:31 (Ref:1264504)   #9
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Can you update us then?
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Old 30 Mar 2005, 08:54 (Ref:1265033)   #10
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Suggest you get up to date with your info!
Feel free to enlighten us.
As for tyres my info came from they guys that fit them, and more likely to have an accurate idea of the number of sets used by certain teams during 2004.
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Old 30 Mar 2005, 19:30 (Ref:1265605)   #11
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Yeah, but it’s 2005 now!

It’s a big subject, but a lot of changes have been made over the winter at the teams’ suggestion. Taking tyres as an example, since you mentioned them, Championship Class cars are now limited to 65 sets per season and National Class to 55 sets.

Testing is limited to 30 fixed days for the National Class drivers and the same 30 for Championship Class guys, plus 5 days when they can go away and play on their own.

There’s a very good control Mugen-Honda engine for the National Class, available at much reduced cost compared with last year. And so on…

The result is that budgets have mostly come down a lot and that’s the reason why there should be 25/26 cars on the grid at Donington.
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Old 31 Mar 2005, 11:09 (Ref:1266092)   #12
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Excellent news!!
Sounds like SRO sat up and listened last year.
So out of interest, do these cost savings get passed to the drivers?
I reckon the cost cutting mentioned above, seat costs should come down by around 30% ??
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Old 31 Mar 2005, 14:51 (Ref:1266287)   #13
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If the budgets have come down then, yes, the benefits are being passed on to the drivers. Target figures now are 200K for National Class and 300K for Championship, but there is talk of deals having been done for less.
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Old 6 Apr 2005, 05:16 (Ref:1271459)   #14
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$560,000 USD for a season of national F3?

Here in the States, a season of 240bhp carbon-fiber rotary-powered Star Mazda racing costs $250-$300,000 USD. F3 sounds pretty steep!
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Old 6 Apr 2005, 05:26 (Ref:1271461)   #15
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How many drivers have gone from Star Mazda to F1?
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Old 6 Apr 2005, 11:25 (Ref:1271611)   #16
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What drivers have gone to F1 from F3 just based on their F3 form lately? Kerr and Hynes showed that just winning isnt enough.
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Formula 3 running costs have caused the words "Makela" and "SEAT" to be used in the same sentence!
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