Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition - Page 149

Christian Mogami · 9 Jul 2013, 22:49 (Ref:3276103)

Indycar management is also behind that P1 rumor because they are looking for a good series to run with the Indycars(to make the weekend better for the fans to fill the stands) with a race at the brickyard to start the fun in the month of May.(24hrs of Indy?)

Honda is looking for a team to run two 2014 P1's next year and the first team that comes to my mind is Ganassi.

Matt · 9 Jul 2013, 22:56 (Ref:3276106)

It'd be neat to see P1's on ovals...but they'd probably have numbers equal to Indy Lights.

David Land · 10 Jul 2013, 00:01 (Ref:3276111)

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Originally Posted by Christian Mogami

Indycar management is also behind that P1 rumor because they are looking for a good series to run with the Indycars(to make the weekend better for the fans to fill the stands) with a race at the brickyard to start the fun in the month of May.(24hrs of Indy?)

Honda is looking for a team to run two 2014 P1's next year and the first team that comes to my mind is Ganassi.

Could also be Greg Pickett's out of the USCR.

jaguarista · 10 Jul 2013, 00:35 (Ref:3276114)

Jaguar Project 7

**skycafe** · 10 Jul 2013, 00:50 (Ref:3276117)

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Originally Posted by TRuss

Completely in house from here on out.

This was mentioned on the Speed broadcast of the 24LM. I had always thought the Michelotto was something like a branch of the factory-I guess instead they are a different company. What is the reason for breaking away from Michelotto now?

jeast · 10 Jul 2013, 00:50 (Ref:3276118)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Porsche/Penske. Honda/Ganassi. A new breakaway American series?

Lots to digest in this DSC rumours piece. https://www.dailysportscar.com/?p=9912

That would be amazing.

gregtummer · 10 Jul 2013, 00:54 (Ref:3276119)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Porsche/Penske. Honda/Ganassi. A new breakaway American series?

Lots to digest in this DSC rumours piece. https://www.dailysportscar.com/?p=9912

There are just enough tracks left to make it happen.

Road America
Mosport
Lime Rock
Mid-Ohio
Laguna Seca
Austin
VIR
Sonoma
Barber
Utah
Long Beach
Detroit
Indy Road Course?
Portland?
Baltimore?
St Petersburg?
Edmonton?
Montreal?

HJJ · 10 Jul 2013, 01:04 (Ref:3276123)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Porsche/Penske. Honda/Ganassi. A new breakaway American series?

Lots to digest in this DSC rumours piece. https://www.dailysportscar.com/?p=9912

Might be a way to get people to show up for an Indycar race. I'd worry that the Dallara sleds would be shown up on both technology and outright pace.

TF110 · 10 Jul 2013, 07:58 (Ref:3276208)

They aren't far off the current pace of Indy cars.

deggis · 10 Jul 2013, 08:10 (Ref:3276213)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Porsche/Penske. Honda/Ganassi. A new breakaway American series?

Lots to digest in this DSC rumours piece. https://www.dailysportscar.com/?p=9912

"...it seems HPD aren’t keen to talk to DSC about!", he he: that racer.com story was truly "exclusive" then?

deggis · 10 Jul 2013, 08:10 (Ref:3276214)

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Originally Posted by jaguarista

Jaguar Project 7

Rumor...? (more info) Maybe a better thread for that one: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137558

Mechanic Z · 10 Jul 2013, 23:25 (Ref:3276372)

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Originally Posted by jaguarista

Jaguar Project 7

WOW!

hondafan37 · 11 Jul 2013, 02:37 (Ref:3276420)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Porsche/Penske. Honda/Ganassi. A new breakaway American series?

Lots to digest in this DSC rumours piece. https://www.dailysportscar.com/?p=9912

Suppose this championship could be true.
According to the article could have 8 or 9 cars (2 Ganassi Honda, 2 Penske Porsche, 2 Audi, 2 Toyota and Muscle Milk Honda)
I think Dyson will go to USCR P2, Dyson are very slow to compete here.
But with 8 or 9 cars you have not a category, you need more cars.
I think you need at least 20 cars. How could be made this grid?
Another LMP1 ,Perrinn, Adess, Rebelion, Lotus, Roble, Dome?
LMP2, LMPC, GTE or GT3?

gregtummer · 11 Jul 2013, 02:55 (Ref:3276424)

Quote:

Originally Posted by hondafan37

Suppose this championship could be true.
According to the article could have 8 or 9 cars (2 Ganassi Honda, 2 Penske Porsche, 2 Audi, 2 Toyota and Muscle Milk Honda)
I think Dyson will go to USCR P2, Dyson are very slow to compete here.
But with 8 or 9 cars you have not a category, you need more cars.
I think you need at least 20 cars. How could be made this grid?
Another LMP1 ,Perrinn, Adess, Rebelion, Lotus, Roble, Dome?
LMP2, LMPC, GTE or GT3?

I'm guessing GT3 would be the 2nd class.

**skycafe** · 11 Jul 2013, 02:59 (Ref:3276426)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

But with 8 or 9 cars you have not a category, you need more cars.
I think you need at least 20 cars.

If if if factory P1 cars are in a new series which would seem to garner attention, I wonder if that draws GTE's and P2's?

But you don't have the classic venues for North America, and you are in competition with a well-financed competitor.

gregtummer · 11 Jul 2013, 03:01 (Ref:3276428)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HJJ

Might be a way to get people to show up for an Indycar race. I'd worry that the Dallara sleds would be shown up on both technology and outright pace.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

They aren't far off the current pace of Indy cars.

At 2008 St. Petersburg, the Audi R10 would have qualified 6th on the Indy Car grid. 3 tenths faster and it would have been on the Indy Car pole.

The Peugeot 908 would have probably beaten the Indy Car pole time if it was there.

deggis · 11 Jul 2013, 04:07 (Ref:3276441)

St Pete is a slow track and the new IndyCars are faster than the old generation Dallaras, and for example at Mid-Ohio about 6 seconds faster than Muscle HPD. Also consider that 2014 cars might be initially slower.

Easy to google, e.g.
http://www.crash.net/indycar/results...ing_times.html
http://www.racingsportscars.com/resu...012-08-05.html

TF110 · 11 Jul 2013, 04:13 (Ref:3276442)

And they had at least 700hp, but today they're nearly as fast with 600hp. Just think how fast theyll be next year with less weight and more hybrid power. The HPD is nowhere near as good as Toyota or Audi's car yet still within shouting distance of those cars with the cut in power.

Coach Ep · 11 Jul 2013, 07:40 (Ref:3276470)

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Originally Posted by skycafe

If if if factory P1 cars are in a new series which would seem to garner attention, I wonder if that draws GTE's and P2's?

But you don't have the classic venues for North America, and you are in competition with a well-financed competitor.

And also the ACO have to jump ships.

Simmi · 11 Jul 2013, 08:30 (Ref:3276487)

The ACO is the real complication in this. Elite P1 entries like Ganassi/HPD and Penske would have them licking their lips but how do they entice them to Le Mans without angering the USCR crew?

Gingers4Justice · 11 Jul 2013, 08:53 (Ref:3276495)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

The ACO is the real complication in this. Elite P1 entries like Ganassi/HPD and Penske would have them licking their lips but how do they entice them to Le Mans without angering the USCR crew?

They can't, and that's why it probably won't happen. Mind you, the ACO can't stop them racing LMP1 cars, they can just stop them using the Le Mans name.

Will the ACO be excited by this? My guess is that Ganassi and Penske would only ever race these cars in America. I only care if they're going to hop across the pond with them too....and so should the ACO.

Beryl · 11 Jul 2013, 08:53 (Ref:3276496)

The ACO would also have to abandon the WEC too. Toyota wouldn't race in both, no way. Hard to see Audi racing in both this hypothetical series and WEC too. Same with the privateer LMP1s.

There's a reason LMP1 is dead outside of WEC, this hypothetical Amercan series wouldn't stand much of a chance.

Mal · 11 Jul 2013, 10:44 (Ref:3276543)

I know some GA teams wont like it - but surely the answer is the 'North American Endurance cup' where P1 entries are accepted to say 4 nr prestige USCR events - this could be done from 2015 and only happen if there were a minimum number of entries - say 8?

With proper cooperation these event could even count towards the P1 WEC championship

Gingers4Justice · 11 Jul 2013, 10:53 (Ref:3276545)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal

I know some GA teams wont like it - but surely the answer is the 'North American Endurance cup' where P1 entries are accepted to say 4 nr prestige USCR events - this could be done from 2015 and only happen if there were a minimum number of entries - say 8?

With proper cooperation these event could even count towards the P1 WEC championship

That's a brilliant idea, we'd all love to see that.

And that's why it will never happen.

Fogelhund · 11 Jul 2013, 11:12 (Ref:3276548)

This is an interesting sequence on Twitter.

Kyle Scott ‏@Kyle9456 9 Jul
@johndagys What do you think the odds are of this new P1 series happening?

https://www.dailysportscar.com/?p=9912
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John Dagys ‏@johndagys 22h
@Kyle9456 sorry, no comment at this time.
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Kyle Scott ‏@Kyle9456 8h
@johndagys When should we expect to hear more information?
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John Dagys ‏@johndagys 8h
@Kyle9456 Like I said, I am not prepared to make a comment at this time.
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