Audi R8 GT3 confirmed - Page 2

minimangler · 27 Aug 2008, 19:44 (Ref:2276492)

hmm...
just a thought.
That aero is beyond GT3...
the new regs are looking to be 500HP ish and GT1 aero...
maybe?

**FIRE** · 27 Aug 2008, 19:47 (Ref:2276495)

Stéphane Ratel gets often criticized but with GT3 he hit the bullseye.

HORNDAWG · 27 Aug 2008, 19:54 (Ref:2276503)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

I'm definitely starting to warm up to the idea of GT3 cars becoming the new GT2 cars or sorts.

I truly like the diversity of Marques in the GT-3 field! But I truly hate the idea of a class that is 18 to 20 seconds a lap slower (Monza) than the current GT-2's, FIA-ACO respectively, coming to the ACO led series grids. If the GT-3's can be brought up to a speed, that would be equal to the current GT-2's, taking the range of adjustment by the ACO into account (say about 15 seconds faster) then it would be great! But the current pace of the GT-3 class creates to large a differentiation with P-1 IMO to be a safe addition to the ACO's grids!

L.P.

**FIRE** · 27 Aug 2008, 20:01 (Ref:2276508)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I truly like the diversity of Marques in the GT-3 field! But I truly hate the idea of a class that is 18 to 20 seconds a lap slower (Monza) than the current GT-2's, FIA-ACO respectively, coming to the ACO led series grids. If the GT-3's can be brought up to a speed, that would be equal to the current GT-2's, taking the range of adjustment by the ACO into account (say about 15 seconds faster) then it would be great! But the current pace of the GT-3 class creates to large a differentiation with P-1 IMO to be a safe addition to the ACO's grids!

L.P.

18 to 20 seconds slower? At Monza their are around 4 seconds slower.

WMUCarGuy · 27 Aug 2008, 20:08 (Ref:2276511)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I truly like the diversity of Marques in the GT-3 field! But I truly hate the idea of a class that is 18 to 20 seconds a lap slower (Monza) than the current GT-2's, FIA-ACO respectively, coming to the ACO led series grids. If the GT-3's can be brought up to a speed, that would be equal to the current GT-2's, taking the range of adjustment by the ACO into account (say about 15 seconds faster) then it would be great! But the current pace of the GT-3 class creates to large a differentiation with P-1 IMO to be a safe addition to the ACO's grids!

L.P.

No way dude, they're not 18 seconds a lap slower than GT2s...

Maybe 18 seconds a lap faster than LMP1s...

HORNDAWG · 27 Aug 2008, 20:27 (Ref:2276526)

You are right. My bad! The info I used was tainted because the "later the No.28 Marc Sourd Corvette went almost two seconds quicker with a lap of 2:08.818" that I used as a referrence was in the wet, unobserved by me. I have found that they were only 7 and 8 seconds back from the FIA and LMS GT-2's respectively later in the practice sessions. But their pace still needs a little adjustment, but at that differentiation it is much more realistic to gap it and maitain the spirit of the class.

L.P.

minimangler · 27 Aug 2008, 20:44 (Ref:2276536)

GT3 is an awesome class right now.

Speed-King · 27 Aug 2008, 20:52 (Ref:2276542)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

GT3 is an awesome class right now.

Mostly. I hate what the SRO has done to the Belcar-series. They had huge and diverse grids just four years ago, but now it's mostly GT3 and GT4 and most of the Bi-Turbo-Porsches and the Killer-M3s are gone. They also did away with the 125minute race format and replaced it with the regular GT3 2x1h races.
Next year they'll even lose the 24hrs of Zolder, but maybe that's a good thing. 27cars aon the grid of a 24hr event are just embarassing.

vorsprung · 27 Aug 2008, 20:54 (Ref:2276544)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

You are right. My bad! The info I used was tainted because the "later the No.28 Marc Sourd Corvette went almost two seconds quicker with a lap of 2:08.818" that I used as a referrence was in the wet, unobserved by me. I have found that they were only 7 and 8 seconds back from the FIA and LMS GT-2's respectively later in the practice sessions. But their pace still needs a little adjustment, but at that differentiation it is much more realistic to gap it and maitain the spirit of the class.

L.P.

In Osherscleben qualifying Thomas Mutsch was 2.2 seconds behind Bruni's GT2 pole time. This year both Monza and Silverstone qualifying sessions were affected by weather. Last year in Monza Klaus Ludwig was only 1.2s slower than GT2 pole.

minimangler · 27 Aug 2008, 21:03 (Ref:2276550)

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Originally Posted by vorsprung

In Osherscleben qualifying Thomas Mutsch was 2.2 seconds behind Bruni's GT2 pole time. This year both Monza and Silverstone qualifying sessions were affected by weather. Last year in Monza Klaus Ludwig was only 1.2s slower than GT2 pole.

But that extra 1.2 seconds is a lotta money's worth...

Aslak Vind · 27 Aug 2008, 21:06 (Ref:2276553)

I knew for some time, that this R8 was coming. But it is the first time I have seen it. And I think it looks very, very naughty!

Still we have the issue about the powerplant, but I cant wait to see it being raced with Frank behind the wheel

Aslak Vind · 27 Aug 2008, 21:08 (Ref:2276555)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

But that extra 1.2 seconds is a lotta money's worth...

Exactly, it is still that ageold issue!

gwyllion · 27 Aug 2008, 21:27 (Ref:2276562)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

Still we have the issue about the powerplant

The slide blades are very similar to those of the V10 test car.

gwyllion · 27 Aug 2008, 21:27 (Ref:2276563)

Some extra info on from: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70098

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Audi say it will not be a works project, but that partner teams will help to develop and then race the car. It is rumoured that Abt, who took Audi into the DTM, will lead the programme.

...

Ullrich admitted that a GT1 version of the car was unlikely, but did not rule out developing a GT2 model in the future.

Aslak Vind · 27 Aug 2008, 21:39 (Ref:2276565)

Basically saying, that this monster is going into the new GT1 class after 2010..?

minimangler · 27 Aug 2008, 21:47 (Ref:2276569)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

Basically saying, that this monster is going into the new GT1 class after 2010..?

*COUGH*

I haven't already said it.

veeten · 27 Aug 2008, 23:34 (Ref:2276605)

More like the same type of events that happened back in late 90's, with the elimination of BPR-based GT-1 cars and the assention of GT-2 as the replacement category.

Another 'correction' comming?...

GT-2 = GT-1

GT-3 = GT-2

trust me on this one.

rich07 · 27 Aug 2008, 23:49 (Ref:2276608)

Wow.

That looks awesome. Yes I'll take one in matte black too please.

GT3 keeps going from strength to strength, they may not have the speed of the GT1+GT2 classes but the variety of marques makes up for it.

JAG · 28 Aug 2008, 07:53 (Ref:2276728)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

But that extra 1.2 seconds is a lotta money's worth...

I disagree, the whole point of GT3 is they are balanced, hence why the R8 can run such a huge wing compared to other cars in the class.

If a car is heavy, they compensate with increased power, i.e. the Viper, and so on.

If the FIA wished to make the cars 2 seconds a lap quicker, it would be relatively simple, but the manufacturer's would have to accept these continual adjustments if GT3 graduated to Le Mans etc. Performance balancing is fine in current GT3 series, but if a Le Mans class win was at stake, how much *****ing and politics would we see.

PorscheFanNo1 · 28 Aug 2008, 11:31 (Ref:2276806)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Performance balancing is fine in current GT3 series, but if a Le Mans class win was at stake, how much *****ing and politics would we see.

WTCC-like, and thats not good for anyone...

Aslak Vind · 28 Aug 2008, 12:03 (Ref:2276822)

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Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

WTCC-like, and thats not good for anyone...

I am no GT3 expert, but I am really enjoying the British GT! Isnt there some learning to be done there? Or?

minimangler · 28 Aug 2008, 12:29 (Ref:2276841)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

I am no GT3 expert, but I am really enjoying the British GT! Isnt there some learning to be done there? Or?

About how to **** off an entire field, and lose half the entries?

**FIRE** · 28 Aug 2008, 12:58 (Ref:2276859)

In GT3 performance balancing works but I agree that this should not be implemented in GT1/GT2.

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

I am no GT3 expert, but I am really enjoying the British GT! Isnt there some learning to be done there? Or?

British GT = GT3. British GT is organised by Ratel so I assume it uses the same regulations as FIA GT3.

I have seen the first few races of this season and I like it. Did the series lose a lot entries?

JAG · 28 Aug 2008, 18:07 (Ref:2276979)

If GT3 graduated to one of the major series, you'd need a more scientiic way to balance the cars, some firmer regs, and a commitment from manufactuers to stay well clear once they've released a car to market, at least until the following years model is due.

zac510 · 28 Aug 2008, 18:47 (Ref:2277006)

Have they still not confirmed whether it is V8 or V10?

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