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10 May 2004, 21:47 (Ref:966952)
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Engine Availability is NOT an Issue...
That's according to a story in today's Indianaplis Star..
All three manufacturers said that they have enough engines for competitors to fill the grid for the indy 500..."so don't blame them" as the story put it... They did say that they aren't going to give out engines for free....and the cost of a Lease for May only might run in the $350,000-425,000 range I'm assuming that would be two engines for a primary and one or two for a back-up car... based on prices quoted by people like Brian barnhart in the past... Honda also said that they would "do a Bump Day and Race Day" deal if someone wanted one....and it would be for less $$$ thant the price above... but there "have been no takers" (Honda's quote in the story) Penske also said that he would consider the G-Force to a competitor who could work a deal...he thought that if things worked like they did last year that the G-Force chassis in his stable could be available... Chevy said they could supply two more teams beyond what they already have out there...they did not create a big inventory, becasue they didn't want to build too many of them only to have them sit on a shelf... Toyota also said that they have enough engines to supply whoever would want or need them....but there have been no inquiries... Thus the rumor about engine shortages is false... Let's see who steps up, and whether or not we'll have 33 cars on May 30th... |
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10 May 2004, 23:39 (Ref:967073)
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That whole engine shortage story didn't sound right when I first heard it.
Glad to hear they'll be enough. As for 33, I have a hunch they'll make it... |
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11 May 2004, 07:10 (Ref:967254)
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God bless your optimism GP Racer, you have any element to support your prediction?
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11 May 2004, 08:21 (Ref:967322)
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I'm quite positive they'll reach 33 cars as well. TG might have said that 33 is "just a number", but I don't think that will stop him from 'supporting' a few teams to get a couple of more cars - if needed - ready for the race.
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11 May 2004, 11:19 (Ref:967510)
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I can imagine quite a few extra entries coming together for Bump Day, similarly to last year. If Honda are offering a cheap deal like that, I suspect Chevvy will as well. I think there will be 33 cars, but no more.
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11 May 2004, 12:19 (Ref:967573)
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Availability IS an issue for Greg Rays team. Seems Greg found out that he's the only Honda powered team that is actually paying for engines,
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11 May 2004, 13:05 (Ref:967641)
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They also have sponsorship issues, don't they???? That's what the Indy Star said this morning anyway.... |
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11 May 2004, 13:26 (Ref:967660)
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13 May 2004, 02:17 (Ref:969370)
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Gregs car is in their race shop getting the new skidplate put on it. The new skid plates from G-Force leave much to be desired and most have failed tech the first or second times thru. Gregs car will be at the track tomorrow or Friday. With no more cars then there is he isn't worried about makind the field so why use up expensive engines and tires. Kinda makes sense to me after I thought about it for a while. What do you think?
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13 May 2004, 06:49 (Ref:969481)
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I guess it depends upon whether they want to appear in the race, or win the race.
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13 May 2004, 14:02 (Ref:969876)
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Well.... I hope he gets some track time on Saturday morning and on Sunday afternoon...maybe for a "Happy Hour" qualification run on Sunday afternoon if he can get the car set up in 2 days... Since you live here as well, Team Owner, I'm sure you are getting as wet as I am this morning, and "Fast Friday" is likely to be "Wet Friday" as well.... |
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13 May 2004, 17:58 (Ref:970093)
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Weather is clearing and maybe the track will be green by 3:00 pm if the next round of showers hold off. Greg told me that they found out pretty much all the information they needed during the open test and that since they didn't have a shot at the pole they really didn't need much track time to prepare to qualify.
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13 May 2004, 23:27 (Ref:970409)
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Greg Ray is not the fastest guy in the world, nor is he a fool. Makes sense to let the rest of the "big guns" slug it out for pole. He can go about quietly prepping the car for the race and focusing on race day performance.
Makes a lot of sense: qualify mid to low-pack, keep the top 15 in reach, pickoff a few early with a better race day setup, pick a few more off through attrition/steady pit work and come home 10th - 15th. Not a bad day's work! |
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13 May 2004, 23:43 (Ref:970417)
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I also heard today that he may be delaying his apperance at the Speedway to see if he can get some funding from the IRL. Smart move IMO.
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13 May 2004, 23:54 (Ref:970420)
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Geez! If that is so it sounds like he has most of the angles covered!
It is the rare guy that understands the "business" side and the "driving" side of things. Greg seems to have a good handle on things. How I wish I had had more drive and less "daydream" when I was younger and had followed my muse. I would love to be participating rather than talking about the 500. I have to ask, Team Owner, if I may: do you enjoy letting your hair down here and sharing some of what you are experiencing at Indy? I would think it is interesting for you to see some of the speculations, rants, wild guesses, etc that we come up with. |
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14 May 2004, 01:30 (Ref:970448)
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This forum is fun John. Most forums are nothing but gripe fests.
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14 May 2004, 09:24 (Ref:970698)
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Glad to hear that - hope I can help keep it that way!
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14 May 2004, 13:38 (Ref:970929)
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An absolutely smart move!!!! and I think that it will probably come his way.... Mo nunn also said (as quoted in the Indy Star) that $$$ will have to be brought forward for his other car to race May 30th... But he didn't specify "Who" should bring the checkbook.... On another note: Beck Motorsports says they have sponsorship lined up now...they're just waiting on an answer from Buddy Lazier... Like Greg Ray, he's probably waiting as well to see if there will be IRL $$$ coming to teams to open up seats....because I'm pretty confident that either Mon Nunn, Dreyer & Reinbold, or any others with an extra car would love to have Buddy as their pilot... |
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14 May 2004, 13:41 (Ref:970931)
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I'm willing to bet that "Team Owner" gets a good laugh every other day after reading many of my "speculative" posts!!!! at least I can rest assured that I'm bringing a little bit of levity into his life this month 
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15 May 2004, 00:17 (Ref:971426)
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Give yourself some credit Tim. your posts are on point, you have good info and I can tell you really get into the 500.
You are one of the reasons why I am here more often than in the Champ Car side... |
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15 May 2004, 01:33 (Ref:971472)
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I enjoy all the posts here. Tim your posts are well thought out and factual.
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