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it's not what the teams and media mean by back to back, but i get your point. it's still long enough to get the cars back to the uk, turned around and sent back out again though, and enough for the mechanics and engineers to get time back at home with the family too.
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Bernie was determined to put a race on Le Mans weekend and the Canada/Baku option made sure this will happen.Will FIA do anything to prevent repeat in 2017?
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Does the FIA no longer approve the dates? I can remember them refusing to allow major events to clash in the past.
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the asterisk next to Baku has to do with pending approval of the start time so that it does not clash with the conclusion of Le Mans.
My bad as I neglected to include that part with the copy and paste. |
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not sure how serious any of this is, could just be some public venting, but Gerard Neveu has hit out against BE for the conflict with Le Mans and at the FIA for not doing enough to protect the WEC event.
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Ultimately as everyone says... it is BE who is at fault (is he the "gentleman" in that "gentleman's agreement"? ). Richard |
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recalling the FISA-FOCA war days i seem to remember the FISA having a lot of control over the calendar...picking which events were championship events or not and exerting control over the local tracks via their respective auto clubs etc.
but how much of that power over F1 the FIA retained after BE and Max set up the new commercial and sporting arraignments is unknown to me. i would think they have some control over sanctioning events through their inspection and grading process but other than that i would think they have little choice but to rubber stamp whatever order/commercial deals BE has worked out. interesting question! |
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It behooves the FIA to do so, as it benefits the sport, otherwise what's the point of having a governing body?
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The FIA is almost toothless in respect to F1 and it's very difficult to plug teeth back into a toothless organisation. It involves Ecclestone (or his successor) and the teams having severe bouts of remorse and uncharacteristic feelings of "fair play" so that they hand back powers to the FIA. A highly unlikely scenario I submit. |
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He also stated that Todt was always trying to make everyone happy and would not take the risk of offending anyone. |
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So Todt is Bernie's Poodle.
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Bernie has ruled by playing the teams off each other. Which is fairly easy to do given that the teams are rivals and intensely suspicious of each other . Eccelstone just takes some teams aside for "confidential discussions" whilst the other teams look on in suspicion and jealousy. He just rinses and repeats this very simple formula and by such 'divide and rule' methods he has ruled the roost in F1.
And while Eccelstone is still powerful that power has been eroded with the various high profile melodramas he's been involved in and he's clearly trying to claw some of that lost influence back. He's also hamstrung too given that he might lose teams and there's uncertainty with manufacturers, the leverage is now with the teams and they know it. Mosley played his part in extracting some of the teeth of the FIA, btw. Particularly in signing over the TV rights to Eccelstone on bizarre 100 year terms. So I'd take this video with a pinch of salt and I wouldn't necessarily hand out a halo to Mosley nor anoint him as fount of all wisdom. Clearly there is a political game at work here that goes beyond their words. |
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Anyone care to guess which GP is to be dropped for next year after the FIA have ruled that there will only be 20 races during the 2016 season, according to GrandPrix dot com : http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns32244.html
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At last some common sense. I would love it if the FIA dropped the Azerbaijan race due to it being on Le Mans weekend, but I'm probably dreaming
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I got the impression Bernie wanted to drop Monza and then Silverstone, all seems to have gone quiet on those fronts recently.
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Silverstone is safe til 2026
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This date clash is just deliberately trying to devalue Le Mans, and prevent the F1 drivers competing.
Explanation not accepted Jean! http://www.pitpass.com/55135/Todt-ap...ans-date-clash You are in charge of calendar clashes, and you are tasked with representing the best interests of motorsport! |
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One minor bizarre thing is listing the Azerbaijan GP as "Baku", the only one that does not list the country. At least it has improved my knowledge of international geography, I suppose.
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