Pre-1993 regulations

Pingguest · 16 Jul 2005, 18:20 (Ref:1356899)

Does anyone has a document with the sporting and/or technical Formula 1 regulations from before 1993? I would like to compare these regulations with the current, so that I can see how much Max Mosley messed up the sport.

Thanks!

Kicking-back · 16 Jul 2005, 18:21 (Ref:1356903)

Let me see.

1992. One team domination. Very little overtaking. Huge technical advances only the very top teams could afford.

Yes, Max Mosley's certainly messed up the sport

luke · 16 Jul 2005, 18:24 (Ref:1356908)

Was and still driver aids....At least back then though when Mansell won in 1992 he made it exciting not won in the pits or given a win...

Pingguest · 16 Jul 2005, 18:28 (Ref:1356911)

OK, the Formula 1 from 1992 wasn't great. But under Max Mosley's presidency it all became worse. Of course, Mosley banned most driver aids, but with the tyres and aerodynamics he messed up.

**Adam43** · 16 Jul 2005, 18:37 (Ref:1356916)

Have you found a copy of the rules yet? Where have you looked so far?

In addition to searching for those, I suggest, you find a copies of the various Concorde agreements to find out how rules are changed. Only then can you get close to understanding how the sport has been 'messed up'.

Pingguest · 16 Jul 2005, 18:59 (Ref:1356935)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Have you found a copy of the rules yet? Where have you looked so far?

I have been searching a lot, but I didn't find anything yet.

**Adam43** · 16 Jul 2005, 19:08 (Ref:1356943)

I'd like to see them too, but '93 is a bit pre-(popular)internet! Perhaps the MSA library?

Pingguest · 16 Jul 2005, 19:25 (Ref:1356951)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

I'd like to see them too, but '93 is a bit pre-(popular)internet! Perhaps the MSA library?

What's the MSA library?

Kicking-back · 16 Jul 2005, 19:29 (Ref:1356952)

I'd have assumed you would have known, Pingguest, I always thought you were involved in the sport.

The MSA library is the library of the MotorSport Association - containing a wealth of material on racing-related matters.

Pingguest · 16 Jul 2005, 19:51 (Ref:1356957)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

I'd have assumed you would have known, Pingguest, I always thought you were involved in the sport.

The MSA library is the library of the MotorSport Association - containing a wealth of material on racing-related matters.

I'm sorry. It won't happen again.

But isn't this organisation pure British. In fact, I'm not British and I don't live in the UK.

Kicking-back · 16 Jul 2005, 19:55 (Ref:1356958)

Didn't realise that, sorry

Dutton · 16 Jul 2005, 20:01 (Ref:1356959)

I have searched for about 15/20 mins and managed to get to the 1994 regulations, but no earlier. I need to leave soonish, so will not dedicate any more time to the task at the moment.

I will try again on my next visit to the internet.

Unless one can access the MSA on-line, or is it purely off-line? I have kind of assumed off-line, but I did a search for it anyway and came up with nothing. Could someone elaborate?

Pingguest · 17 Jul 2005, 09:07 (Ref:1357124)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

Didn't realise that, sorry

I though you would know it, because of my English. I consider this as a compliment.

Damon · 17 Jul 2005, 12:44 (Ref:1357194)

1992 was a great year, yes we had the single team domination but "no overtaking"??? Mansell stuck a fine pass on Berger going into turn 1 at HUNGARY just because he could when he took the title. Behind the dominant Williams' there was plenty of action and lots of on track overtaking, check out your season review tape if you don't remember.

To be fair to Mosley, it has only really been the last few years that he's serverly dropped the ball through having the misguided perception that the only team that matters to the future of the sport is Ferrari and therefore not listening to anyone else. The current problem has come about due to the technical inovations surrounding a rule set that was set up to fix something which essentially wasn't broken. Six seasons of knee jerk changes and quick 'fixes' = F1 2005.

Knowlesy · 17 Jul 2005, 13:36 (Ref:1357219)

I agree Damon, there was nothing wrong with 1992. On paper, it was dull.

If you take the trouble to watch the races though, you'll find it was very interesting stuff. Good racing, great cars, great rivalries.......

It was the same with 1993 which is another season that gets labelled dull.

On the other side you have 1999 which looking back seemed exciting, until you watch the races again and realise that nothing happened, ever. Aside from McLarens attempts to gift wrap the title and send it by recorded delivery to Ferrari, it was a hideous year.

1992 is one of the most watched seasons during off season for me!

Marbot · 18 Jul 2005, 00:38 (Ref:1357506)

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Originally Posted by knowlesy

1992 is one of the most watched seasons during off season for me!

Agreed,but only because it was interesting rather than exciting.

Hazza · 18 Jul 2005, 08:24 (Ref:1357594)

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Originally Posted by knowlesy

It was the same with 1993 which is another season that gets labelled dull.

My favorite season ever, I mean something was allways happening, and I reckon that Senna could've won the title had Ford not stuck to it's "Backing the wrong horse" motoracing program that has served them so badly over the years, admittedly though, the long term investmeant paid off with a world champhionship in 1994, but for the grace of god.

And I seem to recall that the Mclaren at the end of the season was pretty much a car that could hand out a pantsing in the right (Senna's) hands with two fairly dominating wins...

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