NZV8's 2011/12 - Page 68

promax · 22 Jul 2012, 07:21 (Ref:3109637)

i don't think NZV8 should get in a ****ing match with st. they should just concentrate on their own backyard.. and make sure their cars are reliable.. and push their series as being more than just V8 holden are fords.. as a point of difference. if st want to push for having the fatest v8 touring cars.. let them! since they're never going to be on the same track at the same time.. it's hardly gonna matter.

promax · 22 Jul 2012, 07:21 (Ref:3109638)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich07

How about 'I cant believe its not a V8 Supercar'

but it looks like one?

BlueBlood · 22 Jul 2012, 07:23 (Ref:3109639)

[QUOTE=Icarus_nz;3109625
I'm sure NZV8 must be delighted to know that you are utterly loyal to their brand. They just need more than 1999 other like minded souls per meeting to make it fly.
[/QUOTE]

1998 to go

Jerico · 22 Jul 2012, 07:29 (Ref:3109641)

Quote:

Originally Posted by promax

but it looks like one?

So do starcars???

Jerico · 22 Jul 2012, 07:34 (Ref:3109642)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBlood

1998 to go

1998.5

smokin'joe · 22 Jul 2012, 07:38 (Ref:3109643)

Quote:

Originally Posted by promax

simple.. people want value for money, they want to be entertained, they go to motorsport events to see cars race.. so give them what they want. obviously there's not going to be 20 new gen cars racing this year... but if the field is decent.. with good mix of new and old and non ford or holdens.. it shouldn't be a big issue. personally i think the supports are the key for mnz.. if people are entertained throughout the whole meeting.. they'll leave happy and will want to comeback.

at the expense of the 30min gap between races for back-slapping and self gratification....................... nah, it'll never work.

BlueBlood · 22 Jul 2012, 07:38 (Ref:3109644)

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Originally Posted by Jerico

1998.5

Care to explain?

DX20VT · 22 Jul 2012, 07:42 (Ref:3109645)

What do crowds really want?

IMO they want the next race to be coming out of the pits while the last is just driving in,
that is just as important as what the cars actually are.

Jerico · 22 Jul 2012, 07:43 (Ref:3109646)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBlood

Care to explain?

It could have been 1999.5 before you replied, you can draw your own conclusion.

promax · 22 Jul 2012, 08:17 (Ref:3109653)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DX20VT

What do crowds really want?

IMO they want the next race to be coming out of the pits while the last is just driving in,
that is just as important as what the cars actually are.

agree!

Blackpearl · 22 Jul 2012, 08:54 (Ref:3109661)

Quote:

Originally Posted by promax

i don't think NZV8 should get in a ****ing match with st. they should just concentrate on their own backyard.. and make sure their cars are reliable.. and push their series as being more than just V8 holden are fords.. as a point of difference. if st want to push for having the fatest v8 touring cars.. let them! since they're never going to be on the same track at the same time.. it's hardly gonna matter.

Nzv8s couldn't promote a bowel movement. They are flogging a dead horse.

The sooner you accept it as Clark proctor has and not going ahead with his deal.

promax · 22 Jul 2012, 09:12 (Ref:3109664)

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Originally Posted by Blackpearl

Nzv8s couldn't promote a bowel movement. They are flogging a dead horse.

The sooner you accept it as Clark proctor has and not going ahead with his deal.

if the series is dead.. why do you still post in here?

BlueBlood · 22 Jul 2012, 09:23 (Ref:3109671)

Why are any of the ST fanboys here?

smokin'joe · 22 Jul 2012, 10:14 (Ref:3109681)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBlood

Why are any of the ST fanboys here?

to tell us we are wrong ??

promax · 22 Jul 2012, 10:46 (Ref:3109700)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerico

So do starcars???

but there's no stars in NZV8.. they all left, remember?

promax · 22 Jul 2012, 10:50 (Ref:3109702)

so when is this..

going to get one of these..

sizzle · 22 Jul 2012, 11:01 (Ref:3109708)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerico

1998.5

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBlood

Care to explain?

Watch out for the splinters

FAS33 · 22 Jul 2012, 15:55 (Ref:3109800)

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Originally Posted by smokin'joe

OSCA, anyone??

naah...how about a YMCA?

Icarus_nz · 22 Jul 2012, 20:22 (Ref:3109950)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBlood

Why are any of the ST fanboys here?

Would you prefer the people you don't like to all leave so you can sit round in a circle and play a game with a biscuit?

Speedway is a format where the cars come out the gate as the last race is leaving.
Speedway is quite an entertaining night out and has a large fanbase

What it doesn't have is the big money. Or lots of TV

Top level circuit racing is a soap opera. The back story is intriguing.
Biff Bang Bosh Crash is just motorsport pornography

When you first view motor-racing you're right. It is just cars. But as you interest matures you learn that there are a myriad of factors influencing the outcome. The sucessful series world wide know that the sport is first and formost a human endevour. If the public can identify with the people they develop a greater level of engagement and loyalty.

Don't believe me? Explain team merchandising?
Certainly there is Red and Blue to satisfy the simply souls but which Red? Which Blue?

It is the people, it is the people, it is the people.

promax · 22 Jul 2012, 21:18 (Ref:3109983)

the yoda of nz motorsport has spoken! LMAO

superiority complex?

maybe

ex drug addict?

who knows

but always good for a laugh! ha

BlueBlood · 22 Jul 2012, 21:19 (Ref:3109985)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icarus_nz

Would you prefer the people you don't like to all leave so you can sit round in a circle and play a game with a biscuit?

Since this is a discussion about NZV8's, maybe you could stick to discussing only that?

If you are so sure the ST formula is the be all and end all of touring car racing in NZ, and you are all so confident that you have vanquished the enemy which is NZV8, why the need for the purile attacks agaisnt those who see value in both series?
Or heaven forbid, those would actually rather see engines and body shapes from the same marque?

Hopefully the motorsport community can find enough funds for both series to work, just more V8 racing for us all to enjoy.

flyingduck · 22 Jul 2012, 21:35 (Ref:3109992)

I was just wondering I saw Bargs was at the speedshow with his name on the side of Inky's car and the new toyota engine who is going to drive the toyota's at this stage?

promax · 22 Jul 2012, 21:46 (Ref:3109999)

Martin Short

socram · 22 Jul 2012, 21:55 (Ref:3110005)

Quote:

Originally Posted by promax

simple.. people want value for money, they want to be entertained, they go to motorsport events to see cars race.. so give them what they want. obviously there's not going to be 20 new gen cars racing this year... but if the field is decent.. with good mix of new and old and non ford or holdens.. it shouldn't be a big issue. personally i think the supports are the key for mnz.. if people are entertained throughout the whole meeting.. they'll leave happy and will want to comeback.

Exactly right. I was fortunate enough to go to the Monaco Historics this year. Why did we pack up at lunchtime on the Saturday? Because the pace of the meeting was so slow it was boring. About 40 minutes between any track action and a scheduled 2 hour lunch break.

Corralled into one stand and no paddock access, so no alternative viewing points. Just 7 race groups with a meeting format that stretched over 2 and half days, yet only one race for each race group.

The plus points are fantastic cars that are not limited to just 4 or 5 makes (Ford, Holden, Suzuki, Porsche etc) and some iconic one offs, but entertaining? No. Did it keep our interest? No.

Saturday night speedway is far more entertaining even though there may be a noticeable variety of makes/cars, but it is a great night and I'd watch there in preference to any Tier 1 meet or Super Tourer meeting.

Only a well run classic meeting where you are getting over 250 cars and a slick programme and with excellent viewing, at HD for example, is worth paying for.

FAS33 · 22 Jul 2012, 22:22 (Ref:3110021)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icarus_nz

Would you prefer the people you don't like to all leave so you can sit round in a circle and play a game with a biscuit?

Speedway is a format where the cars come out the gate as the last race is leaving.
Speedway is quite an entertaining night out and has a large fanbase

What it doesn't have is the big money. Or lots of TV

Top level circuit racing is a soap opera. The back story is intriguing.
Biff Bang Bosh Crash is just motorsport pornography

When you first view motor-racing you're right. It is just cars. But as you interest matures you learn that there are a myriad of factors influencing the outcome. The sucessful series world wide know that the sport is first and formost a human endevour. If the public can identify with the people they develop a greater level of engagement and loyalty.

Don't believe me? Explain team merchandising?
Certainly there is Red and Blue to satisfy the simply souls but which Red? Which Blue?

It is the people, it is the people, it is the people.

*holds up a "You Got Owned" sign up*

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