Townsville Road Race

leaso · 26 Jul 2006, 11:30 (Ref:1664917)

News on the grape vine is that Townsville has put in a bid to host their own round on the streets and one of the races to be contested at night,

Any one heard much sounds great

retro · 26 Jul 2006, 12:06 (Ref:1664946)

It was on the 10 news tonight and TC also said it on the PanelBeaters it looks like going ahead...might not be next year though.

Chatters · 26 Jul 2006, 12:38 (Ref:1664969)

Gee, I've never heard of any rumours of a Townsville street race.

Man that is old news.

retro · 26 Jul 2006, 12:59 (Ref:1664984)

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Gee, I've never heard of any rumours of a Townsville street race.

Man that is old news.

Hey it's only a rumour until you get it from the horses mouth.

It's before the Qld government now for a decision...it does look like it will go ahead...the decision will be made in the next few weeks so it's more that a rumour.

Chatters · 26 Jul 2006, 13:05 (Ref:1664991)

Er...

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Originally Posted by leaso

News on the GRAPE VINE is that Townsville has put in a bid to host their own round on the streets and one of the races to be contested at night,

Any one heard much sounds great

Raglanparade · 26 Jul 2006, 13:08 (Ref:1664993)

Is there any chance they might run a pilot event next year using the Development series ?

retro · 26 Jul 2006, 13:11 (Ref:1664995)

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Is there any chance they might run a pilot event next year using the Development series ?

Wouldn't think so....TC said if he gets a yes right now he can put it in next years calendar but if the Government delays the decision any longer then it's 08.

Chatters · 26 Jul 2006, 13:13 (Ref:1664996)

And I couldn't see the Development Series going to Townsville before the main guys did. That's not what people from Townsville would like to say the least.

pete55 · 26 Jul 2006, 13:27 (Ref:1665003)

The circuit wouldn't be ready for next year no matter what Tony wanted. 2008 at best.

Silent Number · 26 Jul 2006, 20:44 (Ref:1665312)

ahhhh, let us mourn the passing of another permanant track then

Robert Ryan · 26 Jul 2006, 21:23 (Ref:1665364)

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ahhhh, let us mourn the passing of another permanant track then

Well permanent tracks do not attract spectators...big problem here. They are not financially viable.

Silent Number · 26 Jul 2006, 22:28 (Ref:1665413)

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Well permanent tracks do not attract spectators...big problem here. They are not financially viable.

financially viable for who? and you base this on? And you reckon one in townsville will attract the crowds of bathurst and adelaide

, it might be good for the locals, but.....

street circuits are renowned for giving **** views

two street circuits currently. Bathurst and Adelaide, Surfers is an indy car event.

Silent Number · 26 Jul 2006, 22:30 (Ref:1665417)

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Well permanent tracks do not attract spectators...big problem here. They are not financially viable.

it is good to see you support local tracss robert, but your heart does lie in nascar you have proven that heaps of times

retro · 26 Jul 2006, 23:07 (Ref:1665434)

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What will help double the money the sport earns is the promise of a Townsville street race, which is being earmarked to be drafted into the championship calendar by 2008, and the promise of more V8 teams locating themselves in Queensland.

mayhem · 27 Jul 2006, 00:12 (Ref:1665474)

Which teams would move to Queensland currently? The only way I see that happening is if one or two change hands, although if rumours are right, there is a bigger chance that a Sydney consortium will be the next new team, buying a current two car team and relocating it in Sin City.

Robert Ryan · 27 Jul 2006, 00:18 (Ref:1665481)

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[financially viable for who? and you base this on? And you reckon one in townsville will attract the crowds of bathurst and adelaide , it might be good for the locals, but.....

street circuits are renowned for giving **** views

two street circuits currently. Bathurst and Adelaide, Surfers is an indy car event.

I do not know what rock you have been living under for the past couple of years, but the anti and pro VESA, members on this forum agree permanent circuits are struggling. It is difficult to keep them financially viable.

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Surfers is an indy car event

Really? You mean a V8Supercar event with a small exotic openwheeler support. Unless they can get the Champcar car count up, they might not be there.

Robert Ryan · 27 Jul 2006, 00:34 (Ref:1665490)

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it is good to see you support local tracss robert, but your heart does lie in nascar you have proven that heaps of times

Silent Number..this comment is in the "Duhhh" catergory. NASCAR races on PERMANENT TRACKS. Permanent Tracks here, have a lot of problems.

D.R.T. · 27 Jul 2006, 01:09 (Ref:1665507)

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Well permanent tracks do not attract spectators...big problem here. They are not financially viable.

Try telling that to the 'record' crowd at Winton, or Qld Raceway. Leaving these tracks to cash in Government cheques isnt going to make certain the tracks any more finanically viable.

Do you have no concern for the future of Australian motorsport, Robert?

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members on this forum agree permanent circuits are struggling. It is difficult to keep them financially viable.

So how is leaving them going to help.

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Unless they can get the Champcar car count up, they might not be there.

Thats, funny. Try telling that one to the Qld government and CC owners.

Robert Ryan · 27 Jul 2006, 01:28 (Ref:1665517)

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Try telling that to the 'record' crowd at Winton, or Qld Raceway

From someone who questioned if these were record crowds?

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Do you have no concern for the future of Australian motorsport, Robert?

DRT if we put in your minority interest "formula" to save Australian Motorsport..there would be none.

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So how is leaving them going to help.

That is by building up other catergories of motorsport.. to keep them viable.

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Thats, funny. Try telling that one to the Qld government and CC owners.

It is far from Funny, Champcar is going down the gurgler in the US

D.R.T. · 27 Jul 2006, 01:59 (Ref:1665533)

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From someone who questioned if these were record crowds?

I still do, but theres a difference between not being able to attract spectators and the numbers that turn up to permanent facilities.

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DRT if we put in your minority interest "formula" to save Australian Motorsport..there would be none.

But going to street races and overseas where it is only Vesa and the government who collect benefits is a way that is going to see Australian motorsport flourish into the future

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That is by building up other catergories of motorsport.. to keep them viable.

By having places to go racing is an integral part of this, charging them top dollar to have the privilidge to at run street races is not a way of building them up.

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It is far from Funny, Champcar is going down the gurgler in the US

This isnt the place for it Robert, do a bit of research then pop over the CC forum and you would be surprised by how much has happened since your last annual comment following the Gold Coast Indy.

Robert Ryan · 27 Jul 2006, 02:31 (Ref:1665544)

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I still do, but theres a difference between not being able to attract spectators and the numbers that turn up to permanent facilities.

Well according to you.. few people turn up to permanent circuits and you never have offered a way to improve the situation.

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But going to street races and overseas where it is only Vesa and the government who collect benefits is a way that is going to see Australian motorsport flourish into the future

Well their the only ROADRACING motorsport that appears to flourishing, the others appear to be struggling. You cannot lead from something that is failing can you?

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By having places to go racing is an integral part of this, charging them top dollar to have the privilidge to at run street races is not a way of building them up

I have created a thread for this discussion add more comments.

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This isnt the place for it Robert, do a bit of research then pop over the CC forum and you would be surprised by how much has happened since your last annual comment following the Gold Coast Indy

DRT your ignorance at times is staggering...CCWS is in a bad way, no matter what the promotors here try to do to gloss over it.

D.R.T. · 27 Jul 2006, 03:06 (Ref:1665550)

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Well according to you.. few people turn up to permanent circuits and you never have offered a way to improve the situation.

When have I said few people turn up v8 events. There is a difference bewteen having a record crowd and having few people turn up.

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Well their the only ROADRACING motorsport that appears to flourishing, the others appear to be struggling. You cannot lead from something that is failing can you?

Running from permanent circuits for government cheques isnt the answer either ?

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DRT your ignorance at times is staggering...CCWS is in a bad way, no matter what the promotors here try to do to gloss over it.

Robert now who is being ignorant, go do some reading and then jump into the CC forum.

Armageddon · 27 Jul 2006, 03:33 (Ref:1665560)

From a Townsville point of view this is what we need, as most of you know this has been on the cards for years. There is no chance of the event being held next year, the site needs to be developed first, it will be a half half track, half permentant and half street, the course will only run on two streets! If you guys are worried about numbers to the event don't, at the Indy 300 launch a few weekends ago we got 10 000 people to a small evebt in five hours! If it does happen then we will more than likely get people coming in from Cairns, Mackay and Charters Towers and every where in between, I also don't think some of you realise how big Townsville actually is! At the last sensus we had a population of around 205 000. I think everyone needs to stop whinging about permenant and street courses and look at the category itself! Is it Australian of International, we need more events in Australia first, then take on the world. And for the rest of you non believers here are a few atricles from Motorsport News!
The first is one from last year with the proposed track, the second is from the current issue (340).

Silent Number · 27 Jul 2006, 03:56 (Ref:1665571)

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I do not know what rock you have been living under for the past couple of years,

nice personal attack there robert, hey mods, isn't there a ruling on that

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Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

but the anti and pro VESA, members on this forum agree permanent circuits are struggling. It is difficult to keep them financially viable.

Really? You mean a V8Supercar event with a small exotic openwheeler support. Unless they can get the Champcar car count up, they might not be there.

Silent Number · 27 Jul 2006, 03:59 (Ref:1665572)

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Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

Silent Number..this comment is in the "Duhhh" catergory. NASCAR races on PERMANENT TRACKS. Permanent Tracks here, have a lot of problems.

what I was refering to ROBERT is your obvious preference to NASCAR over anything else, maybe you should go back and read my post.

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