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Old 25 Feb 2013, 06:18 (Ref:3210301)   #101
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They have badged a LMP2 effort and the car they're currently building for this season.
They put a sticker on a Lola/Toyota, and nobody bought a Lotus LMP2 car when they said they had one last year....

Lotus is not a manufacturer in LMP racing. Talk to me when a chassis runs more than the Delta Wing and I will reverse my reply.
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 06:23 (Ref:3210303)   #102
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 06:33 (Ref:3210306)   #103
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They put a sticker on a Lola/Toyota, and nobody bought a Lotus LMP2 car when they said they had one last year....

Lotus is not a manufacturer in LMP racing. Talk to me when a chassis runs more than the Delta Wing and I will reverse my reply.
The T128 should do well in LMP2 this year. I am rooting for it. It definitely looks good if the renders are the same as reality. If it's as fast as it looks, I think they will be the team to beat in LMP2.
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 09:49 (Ref:3210354)   #104
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I also understand that the Lotus LMP2 we'll see this year will be the base for the 2014 LMP1 car.

What's happened to Bailey, anyone? I'm sure it was said by some reliable sources that they'd sold a couple of cars. It's gone very quiet on that front.
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 12:18 (Ref:3210421)   #105
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Can someone please screw up and break the Nissan embargo already!?
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 12:22 (Ref:3210423)   #106
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DTM for me doesn't really fit in the the 'innovation that excites' line that Darren Cox has been banding around.
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 12:24 (Ref:3210426)   #107
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I also understand that the Lotus LMP2 we'll see this year will be the base for the 2014 LMP1 car.

What's happened to Bailey, anyone? I'm sure it was said by some reliable sources that they'd sold a couple of cars. It's gone very quiet on that front.
There was a team testing it , with a view to buying one . There was one displayed at Le Mans last year , and there was rumour of Bailey themselves doing Le Mans . Goerge Fouche was intending being on the 2013 grid with one .

All gone quite now ..... shame .
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"Big" does not necessarily imply positive, so I'm be cautious with my expectations. Even if Nissan announce a P1 program, there could also be a pullout by someone else (Toyota, Lotus or Audi).
Sports car racing is full of naysayers but reading that into this obviously positively tweet...well that's something else
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 13:47 (Ref:3210472)   #109
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Oh come on..it has to be LMP1 the way DSC & RLM are hyping this up!
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 13:56 (Ref:3210476)   #111
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Think I'm going to stay up. Hope that doesn't jinx it! P1ease let it be a P1.
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 14:06 (Ref:3210480)   #112
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LMP1 or GTE for Nissan. If it's either I will burst with excitement, I'll certainly be tuning in to MWM tonight.
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 14:13 (Ref:3210485)   #113
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Oh come on..it has to be LMP1 the way DSC & RLM are hyping this up!
I agree, at this point if it's anything but a P1 program it'll be a big let down.
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 14:22 (Ref:3210496)   #114
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Wondering why they'd announce that now, though. It'd be going to be for 2014 at the earliest - why not announce it at LM if it is an LMP1?
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Wondering why they'd announce that now, though. It'd be going to be for 2014 at the earliest - why not announce it at LM if it is an LMP1?
Maybe they can't keep a secret that long? Toyota and Porsche also announced their programmes at quiet times of the year.

The news has already had a pretty big impact and it hasn't been released yet.
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Wondering why they'd announce that now, though. It'd be going to be for 2014 at the earliest - why not announce it at LM if it is an LMP1?
I figure whatever it is they want to announce it now to fit in with the NISMO road car re-positioning announcement.

That way any news of the new motorsport programme will have the NISMO piece mentioned in it and vice versa. It's a double PR hit I suppose.
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As far as I can remember none of the recently joined manufacturers announced their programme at Le Mans. Porsche did shortly after last year..

During Le Mans week all the media attention will be on Toyota and Audi. Now, Nissan will have all the buzz for themselves.
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The news has already had a pretty big impact and it hasn't been released yet.
Big impact in a small pond - namely the 10/10s and RLM-crowd.
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Big impact in a small pond - namely the 10/10s and RLM-crowd.
I'm prettu sure a P1 programme announcement would be all over autosport.com at least.
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What gets announced and the reach it has is a different matter to what is being discussed - which is the hype around tonight's announcement.
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Not doubting that - I just think that there could be more approbriate venues for announcing an LMP1 programme.

How about a 918-ish Supercar or something? I still don't think this is exclusively a racing announcement.
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It has to be something directly racing-related otherwise DSC & RLM wouldn't hype this up this much.

If it's just some obscure supercar then that would be a big let down.
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I'm really hoping its a LMP programme.

Howver, if it is a GTE programme, what car would they use? The GT-R is a monster, the 370Z would seem a better fit.


Lets hope we're all excited by the news, another major Manufacturer is a huge plus for the sport!!
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Big impact in a small pond - namely the 10/10s and RLM-crowd.
It's the crowd they need to win over first to get their money's worth from the project, and this sort of hype should do the trick.
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I'm really hoping its a LMP programme.

Howver, if it is a GTE programme, what car would they use? The GT-R is a monster, the 370Z would seem a better fit.


Lets hope we're all excited by the news, another major Manufacturer is a huge plus for the sport!!
I can see either a Nissan LMP1 program or a Nissan GT-R GTE factory team, McLaren MP4-12C GTE factory team, Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GTE factory team, or a BMW Z4 GTE factory team. All would be great.
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