Michelin to supply fewer teams with tyres in 2006

Gerben24 · 7 Sep 2005, 11:08 (Ref:1401239)

So, the big question is which teams will (have to) change to Bridgestone? It is quiet obvious Red Bull is going to change with their Ferrari deal. But rumours mention Williams and Toyota as well. I don't really see the reason for that

Toyota and Bridgestone because their both Japanese? And Williams because they are starting from scratch anyway? Really I can't think of any logical explanation... Is Ferrari going to allow Bridgestone to change their tyres to suit other teams as well? Will they stay Bridgestones no1 team, even though Toyota might become the quicker team?? Questions, questions, questions!

**Adam43** · 7 Sep 2005, 11:27 (Ref:1401254)

As reported a few weeks back the Toyota deal could be linked to the passenger car division. All new Toyota's may come with Bridgestone tyres as original manufacturer equipment.

Williams? Maybe it was a better deal.

See the following threads:
Toyota, Serious about winning? http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...ta+bridgestone

Bridgestone for Williams in2006? http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...ms+bridgestone

FPV GTHO · 7 Sep 2005, 11:30 (Ref:1401255)

Michelin want to get out of the sport now anyway since Mosley wants the control tyre for 2008, so the sooner the better it seems for some teams. Williams need a technical advantage to get back to the top, and if thats a better tyre for the short term, and a stronger relationship with the tyre company in the long term, so be it.

BootsOntheSide · 7 Sep 2005, 13:50 (Ref:1401386)

I'm not sure which teams have existing contrazcts with Michelin for 2006, or how easy/expensive it would be to buy those out. Toyota have been rumoured to be switching to Bridgestone for years now and it has never happened - is it more likely when they could be about to pip Ferrari to third, almost entirely due to the tyres. I know Bridgestone could have the better tyre in 2006, and the cahcne of this theoretically increases if they have more teams to test with, but it would be a serious gamble.

Silk Cut Jaguar · 7 Sep 2005, 17:11 (Ref:1401554)

I guess we can rule out BAR and Sauber/BMW from switching as they've both only fairly recently dumped Bridgestone.

Williams might be likely, anything to gamble on getting an advantage over Renault and McLaren.

Red Bull are guarenteed to switch rubber to aid Ferrari with their testing.

Toyota could go either way it seems, they might feel they're onto a good thing with Michelin at the moment but, like all teams, why not change now and get a full season on new tyres before the control tyre is introduced?

esorniloc · 7 Sep 2005, 21:42 (Ref:1401727)

Maybe there will be a shock and another tyre manufacturer will enter for 2006.

Louis B. · 7 Sep 2005, 22:13 (Ref:1401759)

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Originally Posted by Silk Cut Jaguar

I guess we can rule out BAR and Sauber/BMW from switching as they've both only fairly recently dumped Bridgestone.

I don't think you can rule out anything in f1. You love me today, you dump me tomorrow, we get back together next week, I then dump you, etc.

I agree with the remainder of your post.

Silk Cut Jaguar · 7 Sep 2005, 22:14 (Ref:1401760)

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Originally Posted by esorniloc

Maybe there will be a shock and another tyre manufacturer will enter for 2006.

I remember not so long ago Kumho were eyeing entry, but I think with the current situation they may just wait and bid for the single tyre contract.

Louis B. · 7 Sep 2005, 22:16 (Ref:1401763)

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Originally Posted by esorniloc

Maybe there will be a shock and another tyre manufacturer will enter for 2006.

I am told that Trojan will introduce new rubber for 2006. Whoops! Sorry, wrong forum...

Suze · 7 Sep 2005, 22:39 (Ref:1401783)

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Originally Posted by Silk Cut Jaguar

I remember not so long ago Kumho were eyeing entry, but I think with the current situation they may just wait and bid for the single tyre contract.

To be honest personally I can't see Kumho doing it. Just because.

Silk Cut Jaguar · 7 Sep 2005, 22:47 (Ref:1401790)

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Originally Posted by Suze

To be honest personally I can't see Kumho doing it. Just because.

I'd be surprised aswell, but every tyre company under the sun is going to bid for that contract when the FIA put it out. Kumho just happen to be the only ones who've made their interest public, I suppose.

Suze · 7 Sep 2005, 23:03 (Ref:1401803)

Of course, it's not exactly a small one...

Do you think it's wise for them to have made their interest public though?

Louis B. · 7 Sep 2005, 23:36 (Ref:1401822)

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Originally Posted by Silk Cut Jaguar

I'd be surprised aswell, but every tyre company under the sun is going to bid for that contract when the FIA put it out.

Why? GoodYear and Michelin pulled out from f1 in the past and Michelin is about to do it again. This year's Bridgestone's performance as well as the Indy scandal were costly bad publicity for Bridgsetone and Michelin such that I would think about it twice if I were a tyre company before joining f1. I guess it all depends upon the visibility one gets versus the costs of it.

esorniloc · 8 Sep 2005, 08:26 (Ref:1401988)

I hope it never happens that F1 has a spec tyre - as that means its NOT Formula 1.
But how many manufacturers bidded for the GP2 contract?
Did Michelin? I am not sure that they are interested in series that isn't open spec.

Kicking-back · 8 Sep 2005, 08:33 (Ref:1401995)

Michelin supplied control tyres to the BTCC for several seasons, using both their own name and later the BF Goodrich brand

Pingguest · 9 Sep 2005, 07:06 (Ref:1402565)

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Originally Posted by esorniloc

I hope it never happens that F1 has a spec tyre - as that means its NOT Formula 1.

I agree with you on that. Of course, a control tyre would close up the field. But it has disadvantages for the racing as well.

Gerben24 · 11 Sep 2005, 11:58 (Ref:1404498)

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Originally Posted by esorniloc

I hope it never happens that F1 has a spec tyre - as that means its NOT Formula 1.

The same happened in World Superbike 2 years ago, everybody was complaining, but still the racing got a lot better, with 4 riders still in the championship going into the last round. This could also happen in F1, because everybody has got equal material.

Pingguest · 12 Sep 2005, 10:59 (Ref:1405501)

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Originally Posted by Gerben24

The same happened in World Superbike 2 years ago, everybody was complaining, but still the racing got a lot better, with 4 riders still in the championship going into the last round. This could also happen in F1, because everybody has got equal material.

If you want equal material, than you could propose a standard engine and chassis as well.

FPV GTHO · 12 Sep 2005, 11:15 (Ref:1405515)

Why not leave F1 alone and watch Champ Car in that case then

Logrence · 12 Sep 2005, 11:17 (Ref:1405519)

It's not necessarily a control tyre - just one tyre manufacturer. I think that would in some ways be better for the sport.

Kicking-back · 12 Sep 2005, 13:40 (Ref:1405642)

Maybe 10 tyre manufacturers would be better - a different one for each team.

Logrence · 12 Sep 2005, 14:04 (Ref:1405668)

Yes, KB, maybe it would in some ways.

Pingguest · 12 Sep 2005, 14:21 (Ref:1405683)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

Maybe 10 tyre manufacturers would be better - a different one for each team.

Or just four tyre manufactures with just four tyre manufactors which supply cars to couple of teams.

Gt_R · 12 Sep 2005, 15:35 (Ref:1405749)

Ban Michelin..ban Bridgestone.. make teams develop their own tyres.

After playing with exotic metals...it's time they do the rubber.

A Toyota car powered by Toyota engine with Toyota tyres...every team is forced to be self sufficient.

... A single tyre manufacturer offering 2 or even 3 different compounds would be enough to add spice up F1 from a tyres aspect.

Mal · 12 Sep 2005, 15:43 (Ref:1405752)

Is it absolutely certain that Ferrari are Staying with Bridgestone?

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