ALMS 2012 Discussion - Page 112

Maelochs · 23 Aug 2012, 02:38 (Ref:3123324)

When I grew up there was no such things a "sports car racing" on TV (Indy 500, parts of ther Daytona 500 and Monaco GP) and "the big screen" meant a movie theater.

On the other hand, I had ADD, but it hadn't yet been named, defined, ridiculously wildly over diagnosed, and used as an excuse to dose kids with Ritalin. Not sure if I came out ahead there or not.

I like endurance racing. BTCC is kind of fun to watch too. It is sort of like the difference between football and soccer; each takes a different kind of skill and finesse (you try ricocheting off of three cars, spinning the one in front of you so you can pass it, not spinning yourself and not getting penalized.)

FordCosworthPanoz · 23 Aug 2012, 02:40 (Ref:3123325)

I kind of like Motorsport, seems fun...

Deleted · 23 Aug 2012, 11:30 (Ref:3123497)

Baltimore entry list is up
http://www.imsaracing.net/2012/event...try%20List.pdf

Pretty typical line-up for a street race.

Missing from RA:
- Dempsey LMP2
- PR1 LMPC
- 2nd Green Hornet GTC
- GMG GTC
- NGT CTC

Additions:
- Performance Tech LMPC
- 2nd TRG GTC

The event logo has changed too

with the obvious SRT/Viper sponsorship

pach233 · 23 Aug 2012, 13:21 (Ref:3123558)

Too bad about Dempsey not being there, although with the Lola situation and the street course it isn't totally unexpected. I imagine Performance Tech will probably drop out. All the other regular players are there which is good. Fingers crossed Dyson gets through this race with no damage.

Deleted · 23 Aug 2012, 14:05 (Ref:3123572)

Dempsey's only doing part time season with the Lola so skipping this one was probably always in the plan.

Good to have second Dyson there again, you know seeing how horrid the pace of that car has been throughout the season it got me worried that they might pull it out at some point, but now that we only have three events left they'll probably do all the remaining rounds. Who knows what happens in Petit... if we don't get any extra P1s, #6 faces more mechanical gremlins and #16 keeps screwing things up well the #20 might just get lucky by being slow and out of harm's way.

Hopefully the Vipers up their game a little for Baltimore. Especially the drivers...

Jonerz · 23 Aug 2012, 16:48 (Ref:3123637)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

Dempsey's only doing part time season with the Lola so skipping this one was probably always in the plan.

Good to have second Dyson there again, you know seeing how horrid the pace of that car has been throughout the season it got me worried that they might pull it out at some point, but now that we only have three events left they'll probably do all the remaining rounds. Who knows what happens in Petit... if we don't get any extra P1s, #6 faces more mechanical gremlins and #16 keeps screwing things up well the #20 might just get lucky by being slow and out of harm's way.

Hopefully the Vipers up their game a little for Baltimore. Especially the drivers...

I don't know if #20 will be at Petit. I think the addition of Tony Burgess might have changed that program and we could see them at VIR and Petit, but initially that car was for sprint races only.

Chris

Speed-King · 23 Aug 2012, 17:34 (Ref:3123657)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

The event logo has changed too

Jonerz · 23 Aug 2012, 19:33 (Ref:3123715)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Chris

gregtummer · 23 Aug 2012, 21:02 (Ref:3123757)

I would say it is 50/50 that an LMP2 car will win Petit at this point.

Jonerz · 23 Aug 2012, 23:04 (Ref:3123824)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregtummer

I would say it is 50/50 that an LMP2 car will win Petit at this point.

I wouldn't go that far, but I'm kind of rooting for it, honestly!

Chris

Duff_44 · 23 Aug 2012, 23:58 (Ref:3123837)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregtummer

I would say it is 50/50 that an LMP2 car will win Petit at this point.

It depends how many laps down the Muscle Milk HPD goes in the first hour...

They went down 5 laps at Lime Rock (1.474mi), and made that up in 96 laps.
That's 7.37mi in 141.504mi, or roughly 5.2% quicker over that stretch.

Went down 4 laps at Road America (4.048mi), and made that up (almost) in 78 laps. That's 16.192mi in 315.744mi, or about... 5.2% quicker!

So if they spot the field about 18 laps at lap 50 or so, we should have an exciting finish

Obviously this depends on yellows... just roll with it

Jonerz · 24 Aug 2012, 00:02 (Ref:3123840)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duff_44

It depends how many laps down the Muscle Milk HPD goes in the first hour...

They went down 5 laps at Lime Rock (1.474mi), and made that up in 96 laps.
That's 7.37mi in 141.504mi, or roughly 5.2% quicker over that stretch.

Went down 4 laps at Road America (4.048mi), and made that up (almost) in 78 laps. That's 16.192mi in 315.744mi, or about... 5.2% quicker!

So if they spot the field about 18 laps at lap 50 or so, we should have an exciting finish

Obviously this depends on yellows... just roll with it

An excellent post.

Chris

R4z3rw33n · 24 Aug 2012, 00:39 (Ref:3123854)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed-King

http://www.crackajack.de/wp-content/...e_bay_logo.jpg

Brilliant.

**joeb** · 24 Aug 2012, 15:46 (Ref:3124142)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

Dempsey's only doing part time season with the Lola so skipping this one was probably always in the plan.

Good to have second Dyson there again, you know seeing how horrid the pace of that car has been throughout the season it got me worried that they might pull it out at some point, but now that we only have three events left they'll probably do all the remaining rounds. Who knows what happens in Petit... if we don't get any extra P1s, #6 faces more mechanical gremlins and #16 keeps screwing things up well the #20 might just get lucky by being slow and out of harm's way.

Hopefully the Vipers up their game a little for Baltimore. Especially the drivers...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonerz

I don't know if #20 will be at Petit. I think the addition of Tony Burgess might have changed that program and we could see them at VIR and Petit, but initially that car was for sprint races only.

Chris

The 20 car actually had a good race at Road America, kept it trouble free and near the top of the charts. (They were 3rd and on the same lap as the leaders).

gregtummer · 24 Aug 2012, 16:55 (Ref:3124176)

Conquest in the P2 car also finished on the lead lap in 4th place overall.

FordCosworthPanoz · 25 Aug 2012, 03:07 (Ref:3124372)

Baltimore Grand Prix Grandstand Capacity: 20,194

Deleted · 27 Aug 2012, 12:57 (Ref:3125797)

More of you-know-what

Viper GTS-R
Air restrictors +1,4mm (= now 29.5 for 8 liter waiver engine!!!!)
Weight -20kg

Lotus Evora
Gurney -10
Front splitter +50mm

MitchZ06 · 27 Aug 2012, 12:59 (Ref:3125799)

They'll dial the Viper back again once it shows some pace and development.

Deleted · 27 Aug 2012, 13:04 (Ref:3125803)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MitchZ06

They'll dial the Viper back again once it shows some pace and development.

Is that so... never really happened with the BMW, with the exception of that little reduction last year. On their third season mind you.

MitchZ06 · 27 Aug 2012, 13:14 (Ref:3125809)

They shafted the Vette straight up so the ACO/IMSA is a bit swings and roundabouts, IMSA knows the value of having Viper back so giving them some artificial pace while they develop the car is just them pandering to the mfger...just like they did BMW...

The Badger · 27 Aug 2012, 15:23 (Ref:3125861)

Vette , shafted ..... didnt the Vette run a CF chassis , as opposed to a steel production one , and a new rear wing .

NaBUru38 · 27 Aug 2012, 16:28 (Ref:3125894)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Baltimore Grand Prix Grandstand Capacity: 20,194

At the Piriápolis Grand Prix here in Uruguay, the grandstand capacity is around 80. The event attracts like 10,000 spectators. We can survive standing

Jonerz · 27 Aug 2012, 16:30 (Ref:3125897)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

Vette , shafted ..... didnt the Vette run a CF chassis , as opposed to a steel production one , and a new rear wing .

Don't think they have a carbon fiber chassis. But that rings a bell, I think with their GT1 car they used steel as opposed to aluminum, that might be the case for the GT(2/E) car as well.

Chris

broadrun96 · 27 Aug 2012, 17:52 (Ref:3125930)

In the GT1 Vette the aluminum frame rails from the Z06 were not allowed, can't remember the reason, so they used the steel rails of the base model Vette. The GT2/E car is listed as using the hydro-formed rails of the ZR1. 2012 GTE specs from Corvette Racing Same site has specs for older chassis as well.

TF110 · 27 Aug 2012, 22:22 (Ref:3126060)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

More of you-know-what

Viper GTS-R
Air restrictors +1,4mm (= now 29.5 for 8 liter waiver engine!!!!)
Weight -20kg

Lotus Evora
Gurney -10
Front splitter +50mm

And? Porsche runs a super high rear wing, extended front splitter, 1200kg etc. It's called "balance of performance" for a reason. Maybe you want the Vipers to run 4 seconds off pace still? I don't. I really have a hard time understanding comments like these. The Viper was already at 1295kg, so with -20kg it'll still be 30kg heavier than the 1245kg base weight for the class. This shouldn't come as a surprise, really.

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