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Old 15 Apr 2009, 04:33 (Ref:2441001)   #1
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Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach

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Race - Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach

Location - Streets of Long Beach, Long Beach, California

Date - April 19th

TV Schedule - 3:30pm Eastern - Versus

Course Type - 1.9 mile street course

Distance - 85 Laps / 161.5 Miles

Qualifications - April 18th - 2:10pm -3:40pm Eastern

2008 Winner - Will Power
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Old 15 Apr 2009, 04:35 (Ref:2441003)   #2
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Here is the entry list for the Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach. 22 cars in the field.

Car # & Driver / Car Name / Team / Race Strategist

#2 Raphael Matos / US Air Force Luczo Dragon / Luczo Dragon Racing / Jay Penske
#3 Will Power / Team Penske / Team Penske / Tim Cindric
#4 Dan Wheldon / National Guard Panther Racing / Panther Racing / John Barnes
#5 Mario Moraes / KV Racing Technology-Votorantim / KV Racing Technology / Mark Johnson
#6 Ryan Briscoe / Team Penske / Team Penske / Roger Penske
#7 Danica Patrick / Motorola / Andretti Green Racing / Michael Andretti
#9 Scott Dixon / Target Chip Ganassi Racing / Target Chip Ganassi Racing / Mike Hull
#10 Dario Franchitti / Target Chip Ganassi Racing / Target Chip Ganassi Racing / Chip Ganassi
#11 Tony Kanaan / Team 7-Eleven-Dr. Pepper / Andretti Green Racing / George Klotz
#13 EJ Viso / PDVSA HVM Racing / HVM Racing / Michael Cannon
#14 Vitor Meira / ABC Supply Co. - AJ Foyt Racing / AJ Foyt Enterprises / AJ Foyt
#18 Justin Wilson / Z-Line Designs / Dale Coyne Racing / Bill Pappas
#20 Ed Carpenter / Menard's-Vision Racing / Vision Racing / Jeff Britton
#21 Ryan Hunter-Reay / Vision Racing / Vision Racing / Neil Fife
#23 Darren Manning / Dreyer & Reinbold Racing / Dreyer & Reinbold Racing / Larry Curry
#24 Mike Conway / Dreyer & Reinbold Racing / Dreyer & Reinbold Racing / Dennis Reinbold
#26 Marco Andretti / Automatic Fire Sprinklers / Andretti Green Racing / Kyle Moyer
#27 Hideki Mutoh / Formula Dream / Andretti Green Racing / Kim Green
#34 Alex Tagliani / Conquest Racing / Conquest Racing / Brandon Fry
#98 Stanton Barrett / Interush Racing / CURB-Agajanian-Team 3G / Owen Snyder
#02 Graham Rahal / McDonald's Racing Team / Newman-Haas-Lanigan Racing / John Tzouanakis
#06 Robert Doornbos / Newman-Haas-Racing / Newman-Haas-Lanigan Racing / Todd Malloy
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Old 15 Apr 2009, 08:44 (Ref:2441110)   #3
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Can't wait for this, will be ashame to see Long Beach without Champcar, but I guess this will have to do on our way to complete unification.

Also cant wait to try out that Race Control thing on Indycar.com.

We will definetaly see some of the ex-champcar drivers do well in this race.
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Old 15 Apr 2009, 09:10 (Ref:2441136)   #4
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Yes, it will be fun to watch but I cant wait to get these cars on some ovals again!!
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Old 15 Apr 2009, 09:45 (Ref:2441173)   #5
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Yes, it will be fun to watch but I cant wait to get these cars on some ovals again!!
Nooo...these cars are totally ill suited for oval racing. Far too slow, grippy and weedy.

The road events are actually more enjoyable in Indycar which is pretty tragic.
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Nooo...these cars are totally ill suited for oval racing. Far too slow, grippy and weedy.

The road events are actually more enjoyable in Indycar which is pretty tragic.
Negative. Ovals give you faster speeds, side-by-side racing, good passing that you dont get on a road course. Ovals are what makes the IRL.

On to Kansas next!
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Negative. Ovals give you faster speeds, side-by-side racing, good passing that you dont get on a road course. Ovals are what makes the IRL.

On to Kansas next!
Ovals are also the only tracks that Danica is capable of running consistently in the midfield at.

Road and street courses produce good racing so long as they don't use crapwagons
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Can't wait for this, will be ashame to see Long Beach without Champcar, but I guess this will have to do on our way to complete unification.

Also cant wait to try out that Race Control thing on Indycar.com.

We will definetaly see some of the ex-champcar drivers do well in this race.
I've tried it and it's not that good, then again I live in England at the mo and maybe the broadband isn't that broad.
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Old 15 Apr 2009, 09:32 (Ref:2441151)   #9
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Thinking Will Power will be right up there as he won last year in the Champcar event...
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I love oval racing, but the cars either have to have ultra fast top speed or low grip for it to be at its best.

Anyhow, Long Beach. Hurrah!
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I love oval racing, but the cars either have to have ultra fast top speed or low grip for it to be at its best.

Anyhow, Long Beach. Hurrah!
Agree, 900bhp and low downforce for ovals a la the early 90s and no Handford devices is whats needed.

IRL style oval racing is awful, its like plate racing in nascar except they can't push each other, so they run side by side, flat out lap after lap with little skill or consequence. The exception is in the flatter tracks like Milwaukee.
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Im up for both really, although the Dallaras do need less downforce on the Ovals, the nose winglets like they used to run in CART would work very well along with an Indy spec rear wing?

Anyway, thats for another thread. Cannot wait to see these cars going round the final corner at Long Beach and taking the green flag on shoreline drive.
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Danica for the win in Long Beach!
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I expect both of the Penske guys to be right up there - Power may have an edge due to his experience at the circuit.

I reckon Justin Wilson and Robert Doornbos are might also be in with a fair chance too.
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I will be at this race for both Saturday and Sunday! I'll try to post my thoughts Saturday night.
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First practice sessions today, I'm flagging at Turn 8 so looking forward to seeing the cars up-close (real-close!). If the ALMS practice yesterday was anything to go by it'll be a lot of fun!

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Penske has called a news conference at 1 p.m. West Coast time...

Expect Helio in the #3 and Will Power in a third car (probably #12)
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Old 17 Apr 2009, 21:11 (Ref:2443316)   #18
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Well, Practice session 1 is complete and Long Beach. Danica didnt have a good session unfortunately.

Here are the results..

Rank / Car # & Driver / Best Time / Best Speed / Best Lap

1. #10 Dario Franchitti / 1:11.1915 / 99.517 / 7
2. #6 Ryan Briscoe / 1:11.5385 / 99.035 / 13
3. #5 Mario Moraes / 1:11.6395 / 98.895 / 29
4. #3 Will Power / 1:11.6512 / 98.879 / 12
5. #02 Graham Rahal / 1:11.6777 / 98.842 / 6
6. #06 Robert Doornbos / 1:11.9263 / 98.501 / 16
7. #9 Scott Dixon / 1:11.9562 / 98.460 / 11
8. #2 Raphael Matos / 1:12.0233 / 98.368 / 24
9. #24 Mike Conway / 1:12.0611 / 98.317 / 39
10. #13 EJ Viso / 1:12.1371 / 98.213 / 17
11. #11 Tony Kanaan / 1:12.3380 / 97.940 / 9
12. #21 Ryan Hunter-Reay / 1:12.3799 / 97.884 / 15
13. #18 Justin Wilson / 1:12.5172 / 97.698 / 12
14. #26 Marco Andretti / 1:12.6952 / 97.459 / 31
15. #27 Hideki Mutoh / 1:12.7809 / 97.344 / 22
16. #4 Dan Wheldon / 1:12.8060 / 97.311 / 21
17. #34 Alex Tagliani / 1:13.3121 / 96.639 / 10
18. #23 Darren Manning / 1:13.4413 / 96.469 / 16
19. #14 Vitor Meira / 1:13.5154 / 96.372 / 24
20. #7 Danica Patrick / 1:13.8488 / 95.937 / 20
21. #20 Ed Carpenter / 1:13.8651 / 95.915 / 31
22. #98 Stanton Barrett / 1:14.1921 / 95.493 / 27
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Well, the 2nd practice session is in the books. Unfortunately again, Danica didnt move up in position. Still at 20th. The speeds were up in this session. Kudos to Will Power.

Here are the results of Practice Session 2...

Rank / Car # & Driver / Time / Speed / Best Lap

1. #3 Will Power / 01:10.5486 / 100.424 / 21
2. #9 Scott Dixon / 01:10.6678 / 100.255 / 19
3. #2 Raphael Matos / 01:10.8247 / 100.033 / 29
4. #4 Dan Wheldon / 01:10.9033 / 99.922 / 24
5. #24 Mike Conway / 01:10.9981 / 99.789 / 28
6. #10 Dario Franchitti / 01:11.0218 / 99.755 / 16
7. #21 Ryan Hunter-Reay / 01:11.0263 / 99.749 / 17
8. #11 Tony Kanaan / 01:11.1238 / 99.612 / 19
9. #6 Ryan Briscoe / 01:11.1416 / 99.587 / 16
10. #02 Graham Rahal / 01:11.1768 / 99.538 / 17
11. #13 EJ Viso / 01:11.2220 / 99.475 / 18
12. #18 Justin Wilson / 01:11.2319 / 99.461 / 21
13. #23 Darren Manning / 01:11.2441 / 99.444 / 21
14. #06 Robert Doornbos / 01:11.2545 / 99.430 / 12
15. #5 Mario Moraes / 01:11.2702 / 99.408 / 4
16. #27 Hideki Mutoh / 01:11.5538 / 99.014 / 8
17. #34 Alex Tagliani / 01:11.5771 / 98.981 / 15
18. #26 Marco Andretti / 01:11.7980 / 98.677 / 24
19. #14 Vitor Meira / 01:12.1896 / 98.142 / 10
20. #7 Danica Patrick / 01:12.2254 / 98.093 / 14
21. #20 Ed Carpenter / 01:12.5171 / 97.698 / 9
22. #98 Stanton Barrett / 01:14.073 / 95.645 / 18
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My thoughts from being at the track:

The crowd here is very good, especially for a saturday, and at least in this case the notion that street race crowds are just there for a party isn't true, there were a LOT of knowledgeable fans.

This is probably the most beautiful setting to watch a race in the US (although I haven't been to Watkins Glen - and I'm not planning to considering how hard it is to get to).

Stanton Barret is driving the right lines and seems to have decent gearing and wing in his car, his trouble just seems to be that his braking performance isn't as good. This may be due to the fact that that team may just not have the experience in setting up brakes for a road course.

Helio's hit was a lot harder than it looked on TV. It was very similar to the wreck that injured Paul Tracy about 2 years ago.

The new mufflers on the IndyCars are a lot quieter, but on a road course at least, I can't hear the "turbo-like" sounds that some people describe.

The new exhaust note for the Indy Lights cars is a TON better. They actually sound like exotic race cars now, not like an old bus with an exhaust leak like they used to.

On the Indy Lights notes: Sergey Mokshantsev appears really frustrated with his team and his performance. This is not going as he envisioned.

It definitely appears that AGR/AFS has caught up to and perhaps passed SSM in on-track performance. Perhaps Schmidt has stretched his team too thin this year.

I'm predicting Jonathan Summerton to have yet another good race tomorrow. His car is decent and he impresses me on so many levels as a driver and a professional.
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Danica! Great performance

Nice one Dario, cant wait for the race! Hopefully its getting streamed on Justin.tv, or Race Control has commentary.
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Thats Power just got the call about Helio then??
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7 tenths between the top 15 is great on a road circuit - go Will...
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unvelievable will penske be forced to field 3 cars?
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