[WEC] Porsche Prototype Discussion

[Velociraptor]

A V8 would be nice... maybe the bold part was it would be a diesel V8?

[MJones94]

Originally Posted by Velociraptor

A V8 would be nice... maybe the bold part was it would be a diesel V8?

Damn, that would be a bit of a disappointment! He did say Gasoline though, so I still hold out hope :P.

[Spyderman]

Well , I think he is wrong, just like he is wrong about Porsche winning Le Mans 15 times.

[MJones94]

Originally Posted by Spyderman

Well , I think he is wrong, just like he is wrong about Porsche winning Le Mans 15 times.

Yeah, I picked up on that too. I think you're right that the engine is most likely to be a turbocharged power plant. I am very suprised that no one outside Porsche has heard the engine yet, I was under the impression that Porsche's test track was very close to Weissach.

[Spyderman]

It is. Right next to the offices. (you can see the office complex in one of the pictures of the Porsche LMP1).

[Thaw Daggerslash]

Originally Posted by MJones94

Damn, that would be a bit of a disappointment! He did say Gasoline though, so I still hold out hope :P.

I thought it had long since been accepted that Audi will continue to run a diesel, while Porsche will use a petrol motor?

[Velociraptor]

Originally Posted by Thaw Daggerslash

I thought it had long since been accepted that Audi will continue to run a diesel, while Porsche will use a petrol motor?

what has been accepted outside Porsche doesn't have to be true

Though I doubt it will be a diesel... it was more meant as I joke

[deggis]

Originally Posted by Thaw Daggerslash

I thought it had long since been accepted that Audi will continue to run a diesel, while Porsche will use a petrol motor?

Durheimer made a weird commet about a month ago... http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/r8...ment-continues

He suggested the Le Mans rule change was “forcing” Audi towards petrol-electric power, adding: “The new law regulates the amount of energy in a tank of fuel, which [would] eliminate the diesel advantage, turning the picture upside down.”

But that might have been just some politicking.

[dxk1]

Originally Posted by isynge

4 cylinders not unheard of at all

Toyota's early C1s had 4 cylinder engines and quite a few C2s ran turbo 4s (Ford BDT, Zakspeed 4 - which I think was the one from the Probe mentioned elsewhere).

Didn't first Nissan and then Toyota dominate the last years if IMSA with 4 cyl turbos?

DK

[CyberMotor]

Originally Posted by dxk1

Didn't first Nissan and then Toyota dominate the last years if IMSA with 4 cyl turbos?

DK

Yes, and they were very small, very powerful and very fast.

[deggis]

Was BMW's 4cyl F1 engine ever used in IMSA prototypes?

[KA]

BMW ran a GTP programme in 1986, using March chassis powered by a 2-litre turbo 4, which might have been derived from the F1 engine, but pulled the plug on the whole project after little more than a single season- IITC they used to catch fire quite a lot...

http://www.sportscardigest.com/wp-co...arch-gtp-2.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...W_GTP_side.jpg

[deggis]

In fact I already briefly googled, but only found the March 86G which used V8s and BMW V6T... didn't know it was actually called BMW GTP, so:

http://www.supercars.net/cars/5705.html

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z...h-86G-BMW.aspx

[SkaifeHRT]

If only it looked more like this...



Low-slung, sleek, wide, purposeful... unlike today's boxy, narrow-tracked, 4X4 ride-height eyesores they call LMP cars. Same goes for current F1 cars. Seems that the rule-makers are determined to make current racing cars look as ugly as possible.

Bring back the '90s when racing cars actually looked good!

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by SkaifeHRT

Bring back the '90s when racing cars actually looked good!

Really... you're telling me these cars don't look good?







I say this, but I guess it is all up to personal taste, I suppose. I personally like the new LMP1 cars - but I seem to be one of the very, VERY few.

[Coach Ep]

Hail the snake!

[bentley speed 8]

Originally Posted by Beetle

I say this, but I guess it is all up to personal taste, I suppose. I personally like the new LMP1 cars - but I seem to be one of the very, VERY few.

Well you're not alone
Even though I think the 90s really produced some stunners, I still don't think current cars are bad. Really liked last year's Toyota (not this year's one with huge headlamps) and the Peugeot 908

[gustavobamba]

Originally Posted by Beetle

Really... you're telling me these cars don't look good?







I say this, but I guess it is all up to personal taste, I suppose. I personally like the new LMP1 cars - but I seem to be one of the very, VERY few.

No your not... I like them to

[Salamus]

Originally Posted by Beetle

Really... you're telling me these cars don't look good?







I say this, but I guess it is all up to personal taste, I suppose. I personally like the new LMP1 cars - but I seem to be one of the very, VERY few.

SkaifeHRT's post was about how LMP and F1 cars have gotten uglier and you respond by posting 3 GT cars??

Anyway, it's been a couple days since the release of the Porsche P1 and I have to say it has already started to grow on me! I can't wait to hear it in action.

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by Salamus

SkaifeHRT's post was about how LMP and F1 cars have gotten uglier and you respond by posting 3 GT cars??

Anyway, it's been a couple days since the release of the Porsche P1 and I have to say it has already started to grow on me! I can't wait to hear it in action.

No, actually his exact words were...

Bring back the '90s when racing cars actually looked good!

But that's beside the point. I'm curious about the Porsche P1 as well. Does anyone have any videos from the test? I know they are real cryptic about those things...

[deggis]

Originally Posted by SkaifeHRT

Low-slung, sleek, wide, purposeful... unlike today's boxy, narrow-tracked, 4X4 ride-height eyesores they call LMP cars. Same goes for current F1 cars. Seems that the rule-makers are determined to make current racing cars look as ugly as possible.

"Purposeful", a bit ironic to use in this context. The couple of beautiful GT1 class cars were only possible of the messy half-GT, half-prototype rules and all those road car Porsche design design are not purposeful on a racing prototype.

If you put that Porsche to a modern windtunnel, do you think it would still look like that? It's basically ancient in terms of aero.

The '98 Porsche is one of favourite cars too and I don't like the current BHFs and so on, but comparing it to a pure prototype is stupid. If you had compared any GrC car for example I would not have made this reply.

Bring back the '90s when racing cars actually looked good!

As soon as someone builds a time machine, altough I'd suggest turning the time back to '80s right away.

[Maelochs]

The 917 had what, four inches of ground clearance?

[Spyderman]

SPORT-AUTO from 14.06.13 confirmed: Porsche LMP1 will use "Unusual" 4 cyl. Turbo-Engine for Le Mans 2014 (- Blueflame)

[Gingers4Justice]

Surely that's going to sound incredibly dull?

[MitchZ06]

Gonna scream I reckon.