DTM Round 1 Hockenheim - Page 3

**touringlegend** · 22 Apr 2007, 21:24 (Ref:1898007)

It probably looked more spectacular due to the carbon fibre flying everywhere. Nonetheless Kristensen is lucky both cars hit the front and back side of the car, and not the middle.

Fechna · 23 Apr 2007, 00:05 (Ref:1898086)

I agree that Ekström won because of the good strategy, but the Audi´s also were incredible fast this weekend on this Mercedes-homeground. If they can hold this performance over the year, they will have good chances to win the championship. Especially on the twistier circuits like Oschersleben...

Man of the day is of course Paul di Resta, but I disagree if you say without the bad startegy he would have won. He wasn´t even close to the frontrunners at the end. With good strategy I would have expected him on 2-4. But never forget: The lighter 05 cars are very, very fast on straights, something that could be seen even last year (but the drivers sucked completely) and is very important at Hockenheim. I predict the two-year-cars on low grid positions at Oschersleben.

MikeH · 23 Apr 2007, 07:46 (Ref:1898268)

Way to go Di Resta... a new Scottish star in the making, hopefully!

**touringlegend** · 23 Apr 2007, 07:50 (Ref:1898272)

Yep the commentators mentioned Dario Franchitti when talking about Paul di Resta but failed to point out they are cousins!

Also Di Resta's older than 19 isn't he, which Motors claimed he turned last Sunday ?!

MikeH · 23 Apr 2007, 08:05 (Ref:1898286)

He's 21 - not sure where they got 19 from!

Yup, cousin of Dario and Marino, son of Louis Di Resta who raced in FFord 1600 at Knockhill a couple of weeks back.

Go_For_Pole · 23 Apr 2007, 10:00 (Ref:1898359)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fechna

The lighter 05 cars are very, very fast on straights, something that could be seen even last year (but the drivers sucked completely)

Oh really? So why do I remember both Margaritis and Alesi beating 06 cars on pace on tracks that suited their cars? Or has di Resta done anything more that I haven't noticed?

Hazard · 23 Apr 2007, 10:19 (Ref:1898379)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

Oh really? So why do I remember both Margaritis and Alesi beating 06 cars on pace on tracks that suited their cars? Or has di Resta done anything more that I haven't noticed?

I think '05' needs to be substituted with '2 year old' for the purposes of the example I believe.

Go_For_Pole · 23 Apr 2007, 11:25 (Ref:1898442)

Even that would be unfair to the drivers of the 04 cars since they were a major step behind 05 and 06 cars.

Knowlesy · 23 Apr 2007, 11:33 (Ref:1898451)

Just caught the Steanta replay...horrible smash. It's the one they all fear, the side on impact and Kristensen can thank his lucky stars for that one. He is fortunate to be alive!

Credit to DTM though, the cars are extremely safe.

Last2LiftOff · 23 Apr 2007, 12:11 (Ref:1898497)

Thankfully it's temporary but Alexandre to miss a few weeks.

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Originally Posted by crash.net

While Kristensen was found to have suffered extensive bruising, his Audi team-mate sustained a rupture of a lumbar vertebrae in the 160kph impact. Although doctors have confirmed that the injury will not result in any permanent damage, Premat's DTM career will be put on hold for several weeks.

werner · 23 Apr 2007, 14:57 (Ref:1898635)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fechna

I agree that Ekström won because of the good strategy, but the Audi´s also were incredible fast this weekend on this Mercedes-homeground. If they can hold this performance over the year, they will have good chances to win the championship. Especially on the twistier circuits like Oschersleben...

Man of the day is of course Paul di Resta, but I disagree if you say without the bad startegy he would have won. He wasn´t even close to the frontrunners at the end. With good strategy I would have expected him on 2-4. But never forget: The lighter 05 cars are very, very fast on straights, something that could be seen even last year (but the drivers sucked completely) and is very important at Hockenheim. I predict the two-year-cars on low grid positions at Oschersleben.

According to my (to be honest, not extremely well developed) knowledge of fysics, I think that not weight but aerodynamics and enginepower are the most important factors for top-speed. Weight is more important in cornering and (especially) braking and accelerating. I don't know if the newer cars have more power than the old cars, but if that is not the case, than old cars should work best on tracks with many short straights after slow corners.
Having said that, I don't think the weightdifferences are that large, if you consider the power and the high-tech nature of the cars.

Charlies · 23 Apr 2007, 22:26 (Ref:1898936)

Frightening accident for Kristensen. On the in-car footage from Paffett's car, Premat seemed to just stop dead. It'll have helped that they sit closer to the centre of the car in DTM, but it's amazing he has only suffered bruising and that Premat's injuries aren't too severe.

The race was a bit confusing, being cut so short. An Audi 1-2 is a surprise, especially at Hockenheim, but why, except for Spengler (who deserved the penalty), were the Mercedes '07 cars off the pace? And although Di Resta wasn't on for the win, it was still a great drive, even if Carlton Kirby seems to have 'Hamilton Syndrome'.

Have too wait for Oschersleben to see how Carroll fares. Pity it's such a dull track.

flor · 23 Apr 2007, 23:20 (Ref:1898964)

I assume the shape of the new C-Class is a problem for the aero of the car. The front of the car is quite a bit higher than before to meet the standards for the "Pedestrian Impact Test". The Audis have this since they switched to the newer A4 in 2005.

Valker · 24 Apr 2007, 07:51 (Ref:1899092)

Before the race Mika Häkkinen told on Urheilukanava's (Finnish broadcaster) interview that the new car is fast but very difficult to set-up. Even a small change makes a big difference...

So I guess they'll be quicker later then they learn more about how new car reacts to different setups.

Fechna · 24 Apr 2007, 09:02 (Ref:1899142)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

Even that would be unfair to the drivers of the 04 cars since they were a major step behind 05 and 06 cars.

Everyone knows, that at least Vanina Ickx and Susie Stoddart are just having their seats for promotion. They have much more air time on TV then the drivers standing 2-8 places in front of them...

I just know, that last year the commentary said that the older cars have a plus in Top-Speed, and thats why they have a nice performance at Norisring.
Di Resta did a great job, no question, but we´ll have to wait how good a 2year old car can perform on a slower track, where the new developed chassis will have a bigger advantage.

Fechna · 24 Apr 2007, 09:05 (Ref:1899144)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valker

Before the race Mika Häkkinen told on Urheilukanava's (Finnish broadcaster) interview that the new car is fast but very difficult to set-up. Even a small change makes a big difference...

So I guess they'll be quicker later then they learn more about how new car reacts to different setups.

Hmm, thats what they said about the 2006 and 2005 Audi and the Opel since 2001. Fast but hard to set up...

Hopefully this is no bad sign for the rest of the season, even if I am an Audi Fan and would love to see Ekström as a champion again.

THIM · 25 Apr 2007, 17:18 (Ref:1900303)

IMO Kristensen shouldn't push throttle after spin, he was moving inside the corner, where he would stop, if he pushed the brake instead. But he probably wanted to come back to the race rapidly...

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