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9 Nov 2013, 04:07 (Ref:3329199) | #1326 | |
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Oak, Peacom, Graves, and ADR Delta. That's most of the LMP2 WEC grid right there that wants to run the Daytona 24. I do recall back in the 90's that Daytona was a huge draw to privateer Euro teams. Looks like that again
I'm surprised the car cap limit has not dampened their enthusiasm. I certainly see someone being left off the entry list though unless these teams align themselves with a team running full time. Such as the alliance between ADR Delta and Action Express. |
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I think the problem might be that the GTE-market has become so small, yet competitive that the RSR simply isn't a profit center anymore. Porsche has pretty much switched to the Corvette-GT1 model here: running a factory team and giving the leftovers to the privateers.
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Probably depends on what plans the Porsche GTE-Am teams in the WEC and ELMS have for next year, maybe one or two of them will get a 2013-spec ex-factory car... or has the spec of GTE-Am cars been frozen at the start of this year?
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I wonder if the Lemans 2013 class winning car will be retired.
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9 Nov 2013, 16:39 (Ref:3329368) | #1334 | |
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Wow, Sahlen pull both their cars from TUSC next season - no reason given.
http://www.racer.com/team-sahlen-wit...rticle/320308/ That opens out the entry cap a bit for those Euro crews. Biggest question for me is who snaps up Dane Cameron? He deserves a plum full season drive. |
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YESSSS!! OAK, PECOM, Maybe a Muscle Milk entry?? Ian Dawson & Conquest are usually a 20% chance of entering, but please more REAL Prototype cars.
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Can't say it is really a surprise, they were a small team and the DP upgrades are obviously expensive.
Seems like the Euro teams will be able to come and play after all, which is fine with me! This now also takes Dinan-BMW completely out of the P class. |
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It really always was a draw for private teams from Europe, especially for Porsches. It was early enough the teams could get here and get back before the European season started.
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They haven't confirmed an engine for next year, but Starworks ran BMW motors the last 5 races last year.
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9 Nov 2013, 18:16 (Ref:3329401) | #1341 | |
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Just got the email alert from Racer about Sahlen's. What a drag. I really liked the teasm and the all-pro car was developing into a contender. I guess one million more just to enter was a bit too much to support on a pile of hot dogs.
Re: BMW power---as I recall Starworks was looking at P2 chassis as well, so they might come back with anything in2014. Dinan was also working on a P2 motor I believe, so we could see a Honda-BMW from Peter Barron---wouldn't that be a hoot? All the more so if TUSC maintains the Rolex tradition (which they will according to the rules I read) of calling the car by it's engine before its chassis. What great free publicity for BMW? "Dane Cameron in the #2 Starworks BMW passes Jordan Taylor's WTR Corvette under breaking for Turn Seven." And it won't cost BMW a dime. All joking aside, sad to see this long-time team sitting out the season. I hope after the rules stabilize, The Sahlens/Nonnemakers can pick up a couple old P2s and take another shot. Or, maybe they still have their "Mazda" tubers. Slap Mazda6 bodywork on them and really confuse the crowd. |
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Real pity, enjoyed watching the team this year and some of Dane Cameron's performances were outstanding. Hope they'll be back at the top level in 2015 as mooted, hopefully with a p2 as they'd be a team I'd love to see at LM. Truely within the spirit of the sport and will be a loss to the series.
Here's hoping Cameron finds a ride in a big team too, maybe an outside bet for one of Corvette Racing's 3rd seats? |
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I'm another one relatively unsurprised by the Sahlen's withdrawal in light of the new rules, and like many I sincerely hope Dane Cameron gets an opportunity somewhere else. It could be a good thing for him as long as that something else is stable - Sahlen's certainly was, but it was also not as part of a race-contending lineup.
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I think he was hoping for pecom or oak,over conquest or and libra.
I feel the same as you though.not happy losing a wonderful team and maybe gaining a European team that's never been here before, supported either series,and is only interested in a few races and some attention. |
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10 Nov 2013, 00:27 (Ref:3329479) | #1348 | ||
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I too would rather see more P2 cars, but Sahlen's is a long-serving privateer team which has supported sportscar racing in North America in various forms out of their own pockets and I think they've been dealt a rough hand here after a major investment for 2013. That makes me sad even if I would rather see other cars on the grid.
Where would >12 full season GTLM entries come from anyway? I think we might be able to squeak our way to 13 possibles, but realistically larger numbers would include guest cars at the enduros where there will be at least a bit of additional capacity anyway. Therefore, a potential class limit of 12 is not ridiculous. |
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I don't have anything against European LMP2 teams. I just remain skeptical that they can fill the shoes of a high-quality prototype racing team capable of competing for race victories for a full race season. I'm glad to hear Team Sahlens and the Nonnamakers will be racing somewhere next year as part of IMSA. I appreciate their longstanding support of the Rolex series - be it in GT Porsches, Corvettes or Mazdas, or BMW DP's - the past several years. They will be missed at the Rolex24 and beyond next year. Andy Flinn |
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Cameron put the Sahlens DP on the pole twice (Road America and Lime Rock) this year, led at Road America and had a great shot at winning that race until the car let them down. Pretty good for their first year in DP. Andy Flinn |
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