Testing Thread

Redblurr · 22 Jan 2004, 17:51 (Ref:847177)

Schumi back on track beats Williams duo but surprise and prize of the day goes to Button:

Pos Driver Car Time Laps
1 Jenson Button (BAR-Honda) 1m14.607s 85
2 Michael Schumacher (Ferrari) 1m15.410s 95
3 Fernando Alonso (Renault) 1m15.505s 102
4 Ralf Schumacher (Williams-BMW) 1m15.736s 63
5 Luca Badoer (Ferrari) 1m15.767s 86
6 Marc Gene (Williams-BMW) 1m15.820s 46
7 Juan Pablo Montoya (Williams-BMW) 1m16.251s 97
8 Olivier Panis (Toyota) 1m16.507s 98
9 Giancarlo Fisichella (Sauber-Petronas) 1m16.529s 66
10 Takuma Sato (BAR-Honda) 1m16.560s 90
11 Mark Webber (Jaguar) 1m17.173s 144
12 Franck Montagny (Renault) 1m17.447s 130
13 Nick Heidfeld (Jordan-Ford) 1m17.530s 49
14 Christian Klien (Jaguar) 1m18.029s 46
15 Ryan Briscoe (Toyota) 1m18.106s 62
16 Timo Glock (Jordan-Ford) 1m18.236s 36

Glen · 22 Jan 2004, 17:56 (Ref:847188)

Mark Webber - 144 laps!

Franck Montagny 130.

I love this part of the year - things are hotting up, cars are getting launched. Love it.

DriverT · 22 Jan 2004, 17:59 (Ref:847194)

You beat me to it Redblurr. But the Jag looks to be 2.5s slower.

DriverT · 22 Jan 2004, 18:01 (Ref:847204)

Darn it, just discovered the thread on it. Sorry.

ralf fan · 22 Jan 2004, 18:08 (Ref:847219)

nice on Button... but in testing you never really know..

neilap · 22 Jan 2004, 21:07 (Ref:847419)

Ok, this surprises me a lot. None of the posts except RF even mentioned JB's pace! What tha? Hey its only testing but when the Williams was setting records people were saying that its fast. BAR are not known for setting fast times in testing. I am very surprised at Buttons pace and how much faster he is than Sato! Yes, its just testing, whatever but its some indication.

Inigo Montoya · 22 Jan 2004, 21:37 (Ref:847459)

neil - check the BAR -Richards thread - we are talking about it there.

Snrub · 23 Jan 2004, 00:43 (Ref:847688)

Testing is testing and I'm the first one to poo-poo it and the first one to insult Honda/BAR F1, but Button beat the lap record by 4ths! Last years car wasn't behind it by 4ths. I think it's pretty safe to say that the raw performance of this year's car will be a big leap forward.

twig · 23 Jan 2004, 00:59 (Ref:847702)

Finally, some perspective. Thank god that darn Williams has been beaten. Now the thing is 1 second off the pace overall.
Hopefully the media will make a big deal about this, claiming that the car was a big blunder.

But seriously though, that BAR is looking nice.
New tyres, so they havent had much time to get used to them. And with the old car too!

Led ZeppF1 · 23 Jan 2004, 03:54 (Ref:847816)

Nice on Button. Even he is running underweight and did qualifying simulation.

Anyway, from Valencia's McLaren private testing, DC also broke his own record.

http://www.gp2003.com/news/news.php?...46d5f1f436a511

climb · 23 Jan 2004, 07:32 (Ref:847876)

Good on Button

And interesting to notice that nobody since now has underlined that MS, at his first little outing and still with the old car, has significantly outperformed the new and already well-tested Williams.
This is particularly important if it's true what Italian media reported, i.e. for the WDC it was just a tyre testing session.

Autosport reports of a piece of interview with Ralf, who says it's the best Williams he ever drove, but in an TV interview to italian RAI yesterday evening he admitted his disappointment for being outperformed by the old Ferrari.

Mark Webber · 23 Jan 2004, 08:08 (Ref:847887)

Good show for Button for sure . But I still don't read all in to it

Led ZeppF1 · 23 Jan 2004, 08:53 (Ref:847916)

Quote:

Originally posted by climb
Good on Button
And interesting to notice that nobody since now has underlined that MS, at his first little outing and still with the old car, has significantly outperformed the new and already well-tested Williams.

Its possible that old car, with old rear wing, is quicker than the new one.

And, as far my reading, both Ralf and Juan did race simulation. If we had acces to lap times, not just fast time, we can talk more about this.

Led ZeppF1 · 23 Jan 2004, 09:31 (Ref:847946)

Correction, only Juan did race simulation. Ralf working on mechanical set ups for the Walrus before switching to tyre evaluations in the afternoon.

http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...D=144487&FS=F1

While Ferrari on development work with tyres, electronics and engine.

climb · 23 Jan 2004, 09:40 (Ref:847957)

Right LedZeppF1,
but I watched that interview to Ralfie, and he was really disappointed.

Led ZeppF1 · 23 Jan 2004, 09:57 (Ref:847978)

I had found very good website that update testing's data and news from Barcelona:

http://www.f1today.nl/

And, this is free translation:

http://www.freetranslation.com/

Kicking-back · 23 Jan 2004, 10:43 (Ref:848041)

Quote:

Originally posted by climb
Right LedZeppF1,
but I watched that interview to Ralfie, and he was really disappointed.

Ralf always seems to be "disappointed" with something or other.

Redblurr · 23 Jan 2004, 11:00 (Ref:848057)

Quote:

Originally posted by climb
...And interesting to notice that nobody since now has underlined that MS, at his first little outing...

From F1 Central: The German ace steered 95 laps of the Barcelona track in a F2003-GA chassis and admitted that he was a bit 'nervous' after a long winter break of 102 days.

When Michael got his 2003 pre-season campaign going about this time last year, he smashed the F2002 design Ferrari against the barriers on his first out-lap.

He said in Spain yesterday: 'I was a bit nervous.

'But I have to say it really went well and to see all the guys again was beautiful,' the 35-year-old added after a day testing Bridgestone tyres.

Ferrari's programme, also with full-time tester Luca Badoer on track, simultaneously focused on performance and reliability work relating to engines.

Schumacher added: 'We are fully on schedule with the work we have planned.

'How nice it is to be back in the car. We really missed it. You could almost feel the motivation of the guys. Now we wait for the start of the season.'

Says a guy on the verge of retirement

Led ZeppF1 · 25 Jan 2004, 16:38 (Ref:850078)

Well, Alonco set the fastest time on the final day at Barcelona's testing last week.

But, one who more impresses was Nico Rosberg. He setting the sixth fastest time of the day, just 0.186s slower than Montoya.

http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=25840&s=5

ralf fan · 25 Jan 2004, 16:56 (Ref:850089)

yeah great time by NICO!!

Mark Webber · 26 Jan 2004, 10:47 (Ref:850833)

I see Jenson had another one let go on BAR's final day

krt917 · 26 Jan 2004, 10:51 (Ref:850843)

I agree with those who say that testing doesn't really tell you anything, because of differing fuel levels etc. However, I think that BAR's move to Michelin was a good one and, with JB getting better and better, they could be quite a surprise this year....if they stop blowing up!

Mark Webber · 26 Jan 2004, 10:55 (Ref:850850)

I agree Jenson if drive very well of late and Michelin will help them as for "if they stop blowing up! " well I'm counting on that to a point as a Webber/JAG fan

Rennen · 27 Jan 2004, 23:36 (Ref:853023)

Quote:

Originally posted by ralf fan
yeah great time by NICO!!

Actually as low fuel runs go it was a bit average!

grumpy1 · 27 Jan 2004, 23:45 (Ref:853037)

I don't read to much into the jags times.M.Webber 144 laps suggests to me go out run at nearly max and see if you can break it.Work it 144 laps this year will cover the entire GP weekend with the new regs.To still be running 1.17 after that suggests that Coswoth have the engine sorted out.One thing at a time ladies and gents.

The Grummpy1

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