Who is?

Julia · 21 Oct 2000, 20:23 (Ref:43922)

Anyone knows what happened on this picture and who is is/was?

Carrie · 21 Oct 2000, 21:01 (Ref:43927)

erm, what picture?

Ralf's Girl · 21 Oct 2000, 21:07 (Ref:43930)

Hmm...just what I was thinking!

Billy_Hunt · 21 Oct 2000, 22:02 (Ref:43940)

I'm intrested now !
Show The Picture

TimD · 21 Oct 2000, 23:25 (Ref:43952)

It's Ukyo Katayama.

He wasn't tall enough to fit in the framing.

Gerard · 22 Oct 2000, 00:21 (Ref:43966)

Hehehe.

Try again Julia, or tell me what picture you wanted to show us.

Liz · 22 Oct 2000, 01:20 (Ref:43978)

Eddie Irvine hiding from Senna?

Trulli hiding from Alesi?

Diniz hiding from everybody?

Julia · 22 Oct 2000, 14:19 (Ref:44039)

Hrm... How weird that no one could see the invisible link that I put in my original message...

So, here it comes, this time visible

http://home.wanadoo.nl/the8wteam/b191.jpg

I am not very good at putting pictures and stuff in the message so I hope you all se the link and then will be able to go there.

Sparky · 22 Oct 2000, 14:31 (Ref:44042)

It looks like Nelson Piquet in the '91 Benneton.

But I'm not sure what he's up to...

Sparky · 22 Oct 2000, 14:41 (Ref:44045)

Perhaps he's just following someone closely, and being covered in a shower of sparks. This is in an era before the regulation step-bottom 'planks' don't forget, so gearbox contact with the track surface would be common.

EERO · 22 Oct 2000, 14:45 (Ref:44048)

Actually, "Sparky", I thought it was an image of your birth.

To be serious, you can see Mr. Piquet bottoming out quite severely, there's a real mass of flame just below the nose. Those were pretty spectacular days.

Carrie · 22 Oct 2000, 15:43 (Ref:44059)

Well, here we all are at the Motor Show and couldn't keep away from ten-tenths

Tim reckons it's 1992.

Sparky · 22 Oct 2000, 15:53 (Ref:44062)

Sorry Tim. But...

Didn't Brundle and Schumi drive for Benetton in '92?

That's definately Piquets helmet colours, so I maintain it's '91.

But I have been wrong before...

Billy_Hunt · 22 Oct 2000, 16:11 (Ref:44066)

First impressions are that it has been made up perhaps some extra sparks added for effect.
There are a lot of sparks in front of the car,which could be a car in front, which is bottoming out as well and leaving a trail behind .
But to be honest I havent a clue :confused: :confused:
I know the tifosi dont like any other team to beat Ferrari so perhaps there is one stood at the track side with an M16

**Bononi** · 22 Oct 2000, 16:19 (Ref:44067)

Precisely Spary !

That's Piquet, in the Benetton '91. The helmet colours and the number 20 prove this.

To see more details :

http://www.coraledge.force9.co.uk/pi...vinga.htm#1990

Pictures and history from his 90/91 seat in Benetton.

BTW, That was his last year in F1, after disapointments because Benetton fired his close friend and team mate Roberto Pupo Moreno, and put TGF in his place...

That was not a bad move after all...

Gerard · 22 Oct 2000, 21:01 (Ref:44106)

Talking about Nelson Piquet, could anyone tell who this is?
Look at the way the name on the car and the helmet is described.

Sparky · 22 Oct 2000, 21:57 (Ref:44129)

Gerard, it's our very own Nelson Piquet.
I think it's either a very early shot before he changed his name to how we recognise it today, or he used that spelling when in countries where they don't recognise the 'Piquet' spelling.

Is that a formula Ford, or a very early Formula 1, he's sitting in? If it's the former, that might explain it. The 'Piket' way might have been when he was 'only' a local racer, before he went international.

I did find reference to that spelling at: http://www.siteplanet.com.br/wilson/piquet.htm

But I don't speak Brazilian!

Anyone? Sharky? Help!!

Gerard · 22 Oct 2000, 22:08 (Ref:44134)

Thank you Sparky for that article.
If my Portuguese is as good as it used to be, the first part of that article translates like this:

Nélson Piquet de Souto Maior, controversial former Formula 1 pilot, initiated his career as a racing driver hidden for his parents, with the name of Nélson Piket, because Mr. Estácio Gonçalves de Souto Maior (his father), never would accept his son was a racing driver.

Sparky · 22 Oct 2000, 22:11 (Ref:44137)

Thanks Gerard! I knew there was a good reason, and it had to be early in his career!

I wonder how his parents felt with his success later in life?

Sharky · 22 Oct 2000, 22:54 (Ref:44148)

Gee Gerard....I didn't know that piquet's second last name (or the mother's last name) was "O+". But I guess the pic speaks for itself. He he he.

Boy...this article is very interesting. Look at this part.

"Among the varous passages of Piquet's life there's one that says that once he was going to race in Goiânia, transporting his Formula V car in his Kombi (I suppose it's a VW Kombi) when the Kombi's engile blew up. Piquet changed the engines putting the race car engine in his Kombi and continued the trip."

Well....I guess that the performance increse in his Kombi allowed him to arrive to the race track before anyone else.

**Bononi** · 23 Oct 2000, 00:00 (Ref:44156)

I met Piquet a couple of times, one of them was in a ESPRON race in 98. I mad an interview for some local newspapers, anyone interested just ask me.
Piquet's father never liked his preferences, he was a Diplomat, and was pursuited in the military dictatory, so the family went on troubled times. But his mothers always supported him.
I don't know about this "Kombi" issue, but it doesn't seem very strange to the enviroment he lived... Goiania was 300Km distant from Brasilia, so it might happened...
But just for the record, Sharky, his second name was SotoMayor... so the O+ goes for the blood type...
Nelson SotoMayor Piquet.
And I guess this pic was form his Formula Ford times...

Tris · 23 Oct 2000, 06:30 (Ref:44197)

Hi Bononi!

I am very very intrested in the Piquet interview...

I am also trying to track doen the infamous interview he gave to brazilain playboy in 1988.

Nuvolari · 23 Oct 2000, 07:10 (Ref:44204)

And I thought it was Wilson Pickett's half-brother!

TimD · 23 Oct 2000, 19:42 (Ref:44321)

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
Well, here we all are at the Motor Show and couldn't keep away from ten-tenths
Tim reckons it's 1992.

I am happy to concede that it was indeed 1991. Bear in mind that we have all been at the Motor Show, I was looking over Carrie's shoulder, Craig had just startled me, and other 10-tenths people were all around, busily modifying the computers of innocent Internet Cafe hosts.

Oh, and Danielsun had just persuaded me to set foot on the BMW stand - is it any wonder my faculties were a year out of sync?

1991 Benetton. Unmistakeable. Except by TimD.

White Van Man · 23 Oct 2000, 19:49 (Ref:44324)

Shouldn't the fact the link pointed to a file with a name such as 191.jpg given the game away ?