2010 Bathurst 12 hour - Page 13

mtpanorama · 13 Jan 2010, 10:19 (Ref:2612646)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Run the ute

Yeh, I dont think the unrestricted speed limit will make any difference to my lap time.

Non turbo 3.0l Diesel

**GTRMagic** · 13 Jan 2010, 10:32 (Ref:2612651)

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Originally Posted by mtpanorama

Yeh, I dont think the unrestricted speed limit will make any difference to my lap time.

Non turbo 3.0l Diesel

It would very likely win the diesel class... even if its as slow as a wet week

mtpanorama · 13 Jan 2010, 11:16 (Ref:2612671)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

It would very likely win the diesel class... even if its as slow as a wet week

They way I flog it to Sydney and back each week I don't doubt it would last the distance.

Parramatta_Power · 13 Jan 2010, 13:37 (Ref:2612740)

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Originally Posted by mtpanorama

$ have been allowed every other year, so I am not sure why they changed it anyway.

I'm confused a bit here too. I mean, allowing more drivers per entry would mean the head of the ENTRY would need to spend more to secure 4 instead of 3 drivers so economically, its not exactly the best decision. I would like to just see a mirror of the Group A regulations in the race. Group A being Turbos-charged High-Powered Coupes & Sedans Group B being V8 powered Sedans Group C: Whatever you want to bring, BMW's, Honda Integras... Super 2000 regs basically. and a Corolla class to bring up the rear + a mixed bag class of Mini's, utes, Mirages... Aternate Fuels cars NOT ALLOWED.

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Run the ute

Nice.

alfacors · 13 Jan 2010, 21:42 (Ref:2612989)

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Originally Posted by Parramatta_Power

I'm confused a bit here too. I mean, allowing more drivers per entry would mean the head of the ENTRY would need to spend more to secure 4 instead of 3 drivers so economically, its not exactly the best decision. I would like to just see a mirror of the Group A regulations in the race. Group A being Turbos-charged High-Powered Coupes & Sedans Group B being V8 powered Sedans Group C: Whatever you want to bring, BMW's, Honda Integras... Super 2000 regs basically. and a Corolla class to bring up the rear + a mixed bag class of Mini's, utes, Mirages... Aternate Fuels cars NOT ALLOWED.

I'm confused as to why you think it would cost more to have 4 drivers. The teams that run 4 will be the lower budget guys who want to spread the costs over 4 people instead of 3. Makes it MORE affordable for those guys. The top teams will still run 3 drivers, they want the seat time, and it's less hassle when it comes to qualifying the drivers. I'm also confused why you complain more drivers will up costs, then propose to run significantly more expensive cars like Super 2000?

**GTRMagic** · 13 Jan 2010, 21:57 (Ref:2612994)

Its not like the drivers are all getting paid for their attendance... so the cost would not go up if there is another bloke in the seat

If the standard of prezentashun was important, and the team had to buy a 4th driving suit for the 4th pilot, it would be a cost impost...

Green Hornet · 13 Jan 2010, 22:01 (Ref:2612996)

With entry costs up and numbers down, the avaricious promoter's desperate change to accommodate a fourth driver may counter this imbalance and save the race. Already the fee structures have some wondering what the event will do for support category next year.

Sheep Stations · 13 Jan 2010, 22:55 (Ref:2613038)

More than a bit cynical referring the 4th driver move as avarice. I would doubt that the promoter would make enough from this race to buy a pot to pee in.

More likely to be a move to minimise the impending loss by attracting a few more entrants who can put a team of 4 together and spread the pain of participation cost.

No argument the cost of racing at Bathurst is expensive, but it is ahhh...Bathurst.

speedracer04 · 14 Jan 2010, 03:48 (Ref:2613108)

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Originally Posted by Belly13

Also, has anyone got any entry lists for the support races?

Saloon Cars
Tony Evangelou AU Falcon
John Goodacre VT Commodore
Clint Harvey AU Falcon
Shawn Jamieson VT Commodore
Brad Piggott AU Falcon
Dion Panizza VT Commodore
Sam Milton AU Falcon
Frank Panizza VT Commodore
Tony James VT Commodore
Geoff Brown AU Falcon
Terry Mason VT Commodore
Mark Primmer AU Falcon
Ian Chivas AU Falcon
Tim Rowse VT Commodore
Kelli Stephens AU Falcon
Richard Price VT Commodore
Peter Dane AU Falcon
Ryan Dane AU Falcon
Naomi Maltby VN Commodore
Tony Shanks AU Falcon
Dan Gate AU Falcon
Wayne King VT Commodore
Dave Heath AU Falcon
Paul Pennisi VT Commodore
Gerard Miscample AU Falcon
Corey Ludeman AU Falcon
Troy Hoey AU Falcon
John Townsend VN Commodore
Glenn Kenny VP Commodore
Brian Hine AU Falcon
Robert Lonie VT Commodore
Brett Stewart VT Commodore
John Van Gilst AU Falcon
Kris Walton AU Falcon
Michael Seal AU Falcon
Meg Carra AU Falcon
Brendan Niclasen AU Falcon
Lindsay Kearns EA Falcon
Grant Gatland AU Falcon
Dave Rogers AU Falcon
Brenton Burr AU Falcon
Mark Pilatti VT Commodore
John Borich AU Falcon
Wayne Tiriana VT Commodore
Chris Berry AU Falcon
Simon Tabinor VT Commodore
Malcolm Niall AU Falcon
Brett Niall AU Falcon
Simon Piavanini VT Commodore
Dave Youlden AU Falcon

Crash Test · 15 Jan 2010, 00:30 (Ref:2613626)

I don't have driver pairings, but pics of a car being painted.

Belly13 · 15 Jan 2010, 05:23 (Ref:2613676)

Interesting. Surely Lee Castle will get a drive?

Crash Test · 15 Jan 2010, 06:41 (Ref:2613695)

I'd imagine so, he is far away the most winning driver in the Manufacturers Championship from the past two years

mtpanorama · 16 Jan 2010, 02:32 (Ref:2614087)

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Originally Posted by Crash Test

I don't have driver pairings, but pics of a car being painted.

How many signs I am going to have to make for you when you get here???

Sheep Stations · 16 Jan 2010, 03:12 (Ref:2614100)

39 entries for GT3 Cup Challenge

5 McElrea Racing/Yuey Tan 997 Cup
7 Inca Motorsport/Ray Angus 997 Cup
8 Creative Colour/Jeff Bobik 997 Cup
10 Glenelg East Pharmacy/Mark Krashos 997 Cup
11 Noosa Cat/Wayne Hennig 997 Cup
22 Action Motorsport/Terry Knight 996 Cup
23 Falcon Property/Roger Lago 997 Cup
27 Adelaide Signs and Graphics/Simon Gardiner 996 Cup
28 MDev Construction/Brad Rankin 996 Cup
31 Infotrak/Jon Trende 997 Cup
34 Mission Foods/John Morriss 997 Cup
35 Rentcorp Forklifts/Indiran Padayachee/996 Cup
38 Melbournes Cheapest Cars/Kane Rose 996 Cup
41 Hibbards Homes/Bruce Hibbard 996 Cup
44 Minda Motorsport/TBA 996 GT3 A class
45 Bolin Racing/Paul Bolinowsky 996 Cup
50 Action Tyres and More/Matt Kingsley 996 Cup
56 McGrath Lindfield/Shane Smollen 997 Cup
58 Richard Kimber 996 Cup
69 Steve Cooper Surveys/Steve Cooper 996 Cup
70 Corse Automotive/Neale Muston 997 Cup
71 Juniper Property/Shaun Juniper 997 Cup
74 Equity-one Mortgage/Dean Koutsoumidis 997 Cup
77 JJA Consulting Group/Jan Jinadasa 997 Cup
89 Hi Torque Perfomance/Ivan Klasan 997 Cup
90 Macpherson + Kelly Lawyers/Sven Burchartz 997 Cup
TBA Greg Murphy Racing/TBA 997 Cup
8 Melbourne Performance Centre/Dick Howe 944 Challenge
9 Aporschapart/Dennis O'Keefe 944 Challenge
15 United Petroleum/Vince Misuraca 944 Challenge
17 Michael Northwood/Richard Bendell 944 Challenge
22 Nicholson Group/Mark Nicholson 944 Challenge
23 9 plus Motorsport/Nils Musaeus 944 Challenge
26 Prolac Painting/Tim Petrusic 944 Challenge
27 Plaza Auto Sales/John Goddard 944 Challenge
37 Jocaro/Rocket Digital/Chris Lewis-Williams 944 Challenge
45 Westaway Ford/Michael Westaway 944 Challenge
50 Westbon Management/Tony Westaway 944 Challenge
94 Aviation Component Service/Paul Faulkner 944 Challenge

Crash Test · 16 Jan 2010, 04:53 (Ref:2614110)

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Originally Posted by mtpanorama

How many signs I am going to have to make for you when you get here???

I really hope not...

mtpanorama · 16 Jan 2010, 04:55 (Ref:2614111)

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Originally Posted by Crash Test

I really hope not...

Thats what they all say...............

Crash Test · 16 Jan 2010, 05:27 (Ref:2614114)

Should have done the car in vinyl.... three colours and a clear coat later.... yeewwww...

mtpanorama · 16 Jan 2010, 05:36 (Ref:2614115)

I was thinking that when I looked at your pics.

**GTRMagic** · 16 Jan 2010, 06:13 (Ref:2614120)

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Originally Posted by mtpanorama

How many signs I am going to have to make for you when you get here???

Looks like there might be room for a big "Shane's Signs" one on it somewhere

mtpanorama · 16 Jan 2010, 08:51 (Ref:2614144)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Looks like there might be room for a big "Shane's Signs" one on it somewhere

Most cars have room for that. I should make some up and slip them on while no one is looking. I could do it out on the grid before the start.

**GTRMagic** · 16 Jan 2010, 10:30 (Ref:2614163)

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Originally Posted by mtpanorama

Most cars have room for that. I should make some up and slip them on while no one is looking. I could do it out on the grid before the start.

Brilliant idea

Put a different phone number on the bottom, you will know if it works if you get calls to that line.. Yellow Pages does this stuff to show customers that the ads in the book do work

Belly13 · 17 Jan 2010, 02:06 (Ref:2614482)

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Originally Posted by Sheep Stations

39 entries for GT3 Cup Challenge

5 McElrea Racing/Yuey Tan 997 Cup
7 Inca Motorsport/Ray Angus 997 Cup
8 Creative Colour/Jeff Bobik 997 Cup
10 Glenelg East Pharmacy/Mark Krashos 997 Cup
11 Noosa Cat/Wayne Hennig 997 Cup
22 Action Motorsport/Terry Knight 996 Cup
23 Falcon Property/Roger Lago 997 Cup
27 Adelaide Signs and Graphics/Simon Gardiner 996 Cup
28 MDev Construction/Brad Rankin 996 Cup
31 Infotrak/Jon Trende 997 Cup
34 Mission Foods/John Morriss 997 Cup
35 Rentcorp Forklifts/Indiran Padayachee/996 Cup
38 Melbournes Cheapest Cars/Kane Rose 996 Cup
41 Hibbards Homes/Bruce Hibbard 996 Cup
44 Minda Motorsport/TBA 996 GT3 A class
45 Bolin Racing/Paul Bolinowsky 996 Cup
50 Action Tyres and More/Matt Kingsley 996 Cup
56 McGrath Lindfield/Shane Smollen 997 Cup
58 Richard Kimber 996 Cup
69 Steve Cooper Surveys/Steve Cooper 996 Cup
70 Corse Automotive/Neale Muston 997 Cup
71 Juniper Property/Shaun Juniper 997 Cup
74 Equity-one Mortgage/Dean Koutsoumidis 997 Cup
77 JJA Consulting Group/Jan Jinadasa 997 Cup
89 Hi Torque Perfomance/Ivan Klasan 997 Cup
90 Macpherson + Kelly Lawyers/Sven Burchartz 997 Cup
TBA Greg Murphy Racing/TBA 997 Cup
8 Melbourne Performance Centre/Dick Howe 944 Challenge
9 Aporschapart/Dennis O'Keefe 944 Challenge
15 United Petroleum/Vince Misuraca 944 Challenge
17 Michael Northwood/Richard Bendell 944 Challenge
22 Nicholson Group/Mark Nicholson 944 Challenge
23 9 plus Motorsport/Nils Musaeus 944 Challenge
26 Prolac Painting/Tim Petrusic 944 Challenge
27 Plaza Auto Sales/John Goddard 944 Challenge
37 Jocaro/Rocket Digital/Chris Lewis-Williams 944 Challenge
45 Westaway Ford/Michael Westaway 944 Challenge
50 Westbon Management/Tony Westaway 944 Challenge
94 Aviation Component Service/Paul Faulkner 944 Challenge

Thanks for that Sheep Stations. Just out of curiosity, why does Kingsley not have the #1 on the door?

Richard Craill · 17 Jan 2010, 07:10 (Ref:2614519)

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Originally Posted by Belly13

Thanks for that Sheep Stations. Just out of curiosity, why does Kingsley not have the #1 on the door?

I can't speak for Sheepy or Kingers, but I suspect it is the same reason why the Princess didn't run the #1 on his car in 2009. He had every right to do so, as the defending champion, but the ethos of the series and the attitude of everyone involved is such that no one tends to rub success in others faces.

I think everyone is there to have a good time and enjoy their racing so putting the #1 on the door isn't really 'needed'. That is just what I have gathered from hanging around the paddock.

There is that, Or Matty felt it would pose too big a target for all those who got sick of being beaten by him in 2009... could be self preservation????

On another note.. what a good field that is for Bathurst. A lot of good 997s and some very handy 996s. That's going to be a battle even more fascinating than last seasons, I think. Game on. Can't wait.

Sheep Stations · 17 Jan 2010, 22:23 (Ref:2614851)

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Originally Posted by Belly13

Thanks for that Sheep Stations. Just out of curiosity, why does Kingsley not have the #1 on the door?

Richard's got it right. The scariest thing in this category (outside any unnecessary crash damage) is your mates collectively taking the **** out of you if there is a perception that you're getting up yourself. They're like a pack of sharks, any blood in the water and you get torn to shreds. Matt would be too petrified to run the '1'. A well known practical joker in the paddock, he is due for a massive serve anyway.

And there are some fine exponents of the art of bagging amongst the field. Friday arvo's BBQ should be a hoot. A 'Legend' of the series is making a welcome return after some self imposed 'quiet time'. He can expect plenty.

pplater · 17 Jan 2010, 23:07 (Ref:2614865)

Did anyone get to the test session at the Creek last weekend?

I heard Pearson's Pro-Duct cars were quick.

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