What is Aston Martin up to? - Page 63

The359 · 19 Sep 2009, 22:58 (Ref:2544080)

The Aston Martins are newer, and I'd assume easier to work with than the diesels. And they'd likely get more support than they had with Audi. I'm not saying it's going to fix the team's problems, but why would Kolles not want a potentially faster and more capable car?

Speed-King · 19 Sep 2009, 23:15 (Ref:2544084)

Because Kolles also runs Audis in DTM ?

The359 · 19 Sep 2009, 23:20 (Ref:2544089)

I don't think Audi really cares if Kolles stays loyal to the brand.

HORNDAWG · 19 Sep 2009, 23:32 (Ref:2544096)

I think the only reason Kolles is in the LMS is Audi!

L.P.

The359 · 19 Sep 2009, 23:37 (Ref:2544099)

I don't think he's there on Audi's insistance. If he wants to be anything other than a backmarker in DTM or LMS, he's going to need something a bit better than outdated Audis.

carsten66 · 20 Sep 2009, 00:27 (Ref:2544117)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I think the only reason Kolles is in the LMS is Audi!

L.P.

That's the point. Spotting the Kolles cars... there is no sponsorship. And right from the start as a rookie team Kolles is running two R10's... new stuff, equipment, spare parts etc. and at the Nürbergring I was surprised to see also all the tractors and trailers are brand new... so who is paying all the bills?

HORNDAWG · 20 Sep 2009, 00:38 (Ref:2544121)

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Originally Posted by carsten66

That's the point. Spotting the Kolles cars... there is no sponsorship. And right from the start as a rookie team Kolles is running two R10's... new stuff, equipment, spare parts etc. and at the Nürbergring I was surprised to see also all the tractors and trailers are brand new... so who is paying all the bills?

Yep!

L.P.

HORNDAWG · 20 Sep 2009, 00:41 (Ref:2544122)

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Originally Posted by The359

I don't think he's there on Audi's insistance. If he wants to be anything other than a backmarker in DTM or LMS, he's going to need something a bit better than outdated Audis.

That is something we disagree on, as I think they are an Audi B-team! And as such has zero interest in the Lola AMR cars!

L.P.

The Badger · 20 Sep 2009, 14:43 (Ref:2544349)

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Originally Posted by TWK

For what purpose? If you can neither drive nor engineer effectively what you've got.....?

Im not surprised the bears dinner invite got lost in the post . ..... shame he wasnt missed at the reception

The Badger · 20 Sep 2009, 14:44 (Ref:2544352)

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Originally Posted by carsten66

That's the point. Spotting the Kolles cars... there is no sponsorship. And right from the start as a rookie team Kolles is running two R10's... new stuff, equipment, spare parts etc. and at the Nürbergring I was surprised to see also all the tractors and trailers are brand new... so who is paying all the bills?

Dont ask about where the money comes from ..... its not something to speak about I heard .

For a dentist , he has come an awful long way .

The359 · 20 Sep 2009, 15:56 (Ref:2544393)

I don't recall his DTM cars having much sponsorship recently either. Didn't Albers drive a car colored only after his helmet design?

JayBMS · 20 Sep 2009, 16:31 (Ref:2544409)

Kolles get alot of € from Audi, and support for that matter.

As for Drayson they looked at the AMR car for next year but knowing AM was looking to bring the new car out next year they didn't want to end up in the same boat as try have with the Vantage.

MJ_N_09 · 20 Sep 2009, 21:47 (Ref:2544572)

So, will there ba any teams running a Vantage next year?

rich07 · 21 Sep 2009, 00:38 (Ref:2544619)

I dont think anyone will.

Drayson has stepped up to LMP1 and Hexis are looking at GT1. Has JWA still got their Vantage? Then there is Hong Kong Racing and who knows what they're plans are.

MJ_N_09 · 21 Sep 2009, 01:43 (Ref:2544631)

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Originally Posted by rich07

I dont think anyone will.

Drayson has stepped up to LMP1 and Hexis are looking at GT1. Has JWA still got their Vantage? Then there is Hong Kong Racing and who knows what they're plans are.

Doubt it, as James Watt ran a Porsche at Silverstone last week, and Team HK is just doing Asia apparently.

Guess that's it for this model.

HORNDAWG · 21 Sep 2009, 02:03 (Ref:2544635)

AMR should run a pair of the V-8 Vantage GT-2s next year as they seem to be done in P-1 until 2011 and the intro of their own complete car. It would keep the team in shape on pit road and develop the car, which it sorely needs. GT-2 is the class/car of the future for GT! But...

L.P.

GTfour · 21 Sep 2009, 06:49 (Ref:2544687)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

AMR should run a pair of the V-8 Vantage GT-2s next year as they seem to be done in P-1 until 2011 and the intro of their own complete car. It would keep the team in shape on pit road and develop the car, which it sorely needs. GT-2 is the class/car of the future for GT! But...

L.P.

I second that. It's said to see Mr. Dave Richards going all F1 Horny again,forgetting all other kinds of racing. Without Prodrive,I don't see anything happening with the LMP1's next year let alone the cool Vantage GT2...

CTD · 21 Sep 2009, 07:24 (Ref:2544702)

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Originally Posted by GTfour

I second that. It's said to see Mr. Dave Richards going all F1 Horny again,forgetting all other kinds of racing. Without Prodrive,I don't see anything happening with the LMP1's next year let alone the cool Vantage GT2...

Relax!.. Dave Richards has said that the AMR (not Prodrive) Le Mans program would not be affected by any programs done by Prodrive!.
AMR and Prodrive is 2 different things, but share an owner. (as far as i know)

JayBMS · 21 Sep 2009, 08:24 (Ref:2544738)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Relax!.. Dave Richards has said that the AMR (not Prodrive) Le Mans program would not be affected by any programs done by Prodrive!.
AMR and Prodrive is 2 different things, but share an owner. (as far as i know)

It's all a bit mixed up. DR owns Prodrive which runs AMR and other motorsport teams. DR is also the face o the group that owns AM. The racing program has been good for AM and I do think they'll let it go.

Work hasn't stopped on the vantage but in it's current state no one will run it. JWA arnt happy with theirs. AMR should enter a full season somewhere and get it upto speed and make it able to run till te end of the race. But has the damage already been done?

CTD · 21 Sep 2009, 08:32 (Ref:2544747)

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Originally Posted by JayBMS

It's all a bit mixed up. DR owns Prodrive which runs AMR and other motorsport teams. DR is also the face o the group that owns AM. The racing program has been good for AM and I do think they'll let it go.

Work hasn't stopped on the vantage but in it's current state no one will run it. JWA arnt happy with theirs. AMR should enter a full season somewhere and get it upto speed and make it able to run till te end of the race. But has the damage already been done?

Well if Prodrive runs AMR's racing programs, then the funding doesn't come from Prodrive, so there really shouldn't be any problems, except from that the LMP crew might go to F1!?.
But i don't see AMR stopping in Le Mans racing until after 2013 (where the new car is 3 years old, and therefor not very competitive)

airbusA346 · 21 Sep 2009, 08:56 (Ref:2544763)

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Originally Posted by rich07

I dont think anyone will.

Drayson has stepped up to LMP1 and Hexis are looking at GT1. Has JWA still got their Vantage? Then there is Hong Kong Racing and who knows what they're plans are.

Yes, JWA still have their Vantage.

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Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

Doubt it, as James Watt ran a Porsche at Silverstone last week, and Team HK is just doing Asia apparently.

Guess that's it for this model.

Just because JWA ran the 997 at Silverstone, doesn't mean the Vantage won't be raced again.

Tom.

Tim the Grey · 21 Sep 2009, 09:09 (Ref:2544774)

So, a very obvious question here? How come they ran the 997, not the Vantage?

airbusA346 · 21 Sep 2009, 09:20 (Ref:2544780)

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Originally Posted by Tim the Grey

So, a very obvious question here? How come they ran the 997, not the Vantage?

JWA ran the 997 at Silverstone, because Paul Daniels owns the car and paid JWA to run it.

Tom.

deggis · 21 Sep 2009, 14:03 (Ref:2545047)

How is Prodrive going F1 / why is this current topic right now? Spots are filled, even if one team fails to show up, just been sold ex-BMW-Sauber will fill that and Renault is probably not quitting now that the team was spared. Also Prodrive wasn't looking at the last available spot on the grid (after BMW announced withdrawal). iirc, FIA named the teams that were looking at it and Prodrive wasn't one of them.

Tim the Grey · 21 Sep 2009, 14:47 (Ref:2545104)

The F1 forum is full of rumour that DR will take over at Renault.
Though one genius has pointed out that 'like for like' they get Peter Stringfellow!
I suspect DR has got what he wanted out of his F1 statements, and AMR will stay right where they should be.

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