Asian Formula Renault 2008 - Page 16

kfsracer · 10 Sep 2008, 07:08 (Ref:2286255)

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Originally Posted by Lam Pak

zhuhai teams (champ, art and dtm) hav to race in frd zhuhai race or they are invite to leave their shops there

You like to tell a lot of bull **** Lam Pak, don't you?

Frd does not own Zhuhai track (Private Malay company does) and FRD is a regular customer so there is absolutely no reason that Zhuhai teams are forced to enter a race in Zhuhai. If they do, it is of their own will and because they have to run a business and it might be easier to find drivers for a race at home.

End of story

Asa · 10 Sep 2008, 07:59 (Ref:2286278)

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Originally Posted by META4

yes but still drivers from Japan, France,Sweden and America showed up ...

They probably paid everything way ahead and had to go.

Going somewhere that declared itself in a state of emergency, where no amount of insurance premium will cover you and airport could close for days, you don't just get involved in a problem, but becoming a problem in itself. What if they closed the airport and you are out of pocket?

META4 · 10 Sep 2008, 09:18 (Ref:2286318)

I agree with the fact that the drivers probably paid ahead the trip to Thai, but i think it was the responsability of the organisation to then cancel the round. I guess the reason why they did not was economical ,as the organisation in that case would have had to pay some indemnity to the drivers and teams, they are probably not strong enough financialy to do so.

Sorry Lam Pak but instead of 20 only 14 cars were entering the ATCS race at Bira in August , and 12 were last week end . So that is the reason why i believe that the excuse of Political issues in Thai are an "easy" excuse

http://www.afos.com/result_atcc.php?...8910atcsatcs#q

Have a look at the logo on the top of the page...

I believe that there will not be much cars from DTM or ART in Zhuhai, i think the time is too short for them to get theirs car back from Thai, unless they run the cars they have left at Zhuhai Circuit.

LAM PAK , was Bouget really racing at Bira?

Lam Pak · 10 Sep 2008, 12:22 (Ref:2286443)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kfsracer

Frd does not own Zhuhai track (Private Malay company does) and FRD is a regular customer so there is absolutely no reason that Zhuhai teams are forced to enter a race in Zhuhai. If they do, it is of their own will and because they have to run a business and it might be easier to find drivers for a race at home.

soorry to stop your novelty. you are not well inform too. frd and zic are partners in asian formula challenge. frd organises and zhuhai track promotes. zic promotes chinese superbikes in many chinese tracks too. zic manager is frd former manager. zhuhai track owner is a malaysian-chinese family plus the zhuhai governemnt. fr, gt, radical , lotus teams were advice to join to pan delta (zic events in zic) races or else would risk to be kick. you dont know all the story why do you come to this forum to lie. you western people think you know china mainland people very well. you dont!

Lam Pak · 10 Sep 2008, 12:47 (Ref:2286459)

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Originally Posted by META4

Sorry Lam Pak but instead of 20 only 14 cars were entering the ATCS race at Bira in August , and 12 were last week end . So that is the reason why i believe that the excuse of Political issues in Thai are an "easy" excuse

you dont know much about the championship i see. 1st time in bira they had 16 cars and 13 regulars. dont show me links but count with cars crashed in practise. last weekend they had 9 regulars. they had a break too. sorry.

for you a civil war or a state of emergency is a easy excuse. no comments. maybe you had been in iraq war and you know what is real dangerous.

kfsracer · 10 Sep 2008, 13:19 (Ref:2286475)

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Originally Posted by Lam Pak

soorry to stop your novelty. you are not well inform too. frd and zic are partners in asian formula challenge. frd organises and zhuhai track promotes. zic promotes chinese superbikes in many chinese tracks too. zic manager is frd former manager. zhuhai track owner is a malaysian-chinese family plus the zhuhai governemnt. fr, gt, radical , lotus teams were advice to join to pan delta (zic events in zic) races or else would risk to be kick. you dont know all the story why do you come to this forum to lie. you western people think you know china mainland people very well. you dont!

Having lived in Zhuhai for 2 years and worked at the track I believe I am quite well informed. From an insider's perspective I can tell you that the circuit can't just kick out the teams if they dont take part in an event. Advise of course since they promote but not any further... If you had any sense of business you would realize that what you say cannot hold...

META4 · 10 Sep 2008, 13:27 (Ref:2286480)

I prefer to give up about the ATCS case Lam Pak... even though i think you are wrong. 12 cars qualified at the last round at Bira.

Please Lam Pak , let me know what happened to Bouget at last Event?

Will Champ Motorsport enter any car at the coming AFR even at Zhuhai ?

Lam Pak · 11 Sep 2008, 12:30 (Ref:2287140)

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Originally Posted by kfsracer

Having lived in Zhuhai for 2 years and worked at the track I believe I am quite well informed. From an insider's perspective I can tell you that the circuit can't just kick out the teams if they dont take part in an event. Advise of course since they promote but not any further... If you had any sense of business you would realize that what you say cannot hold...

you call yourself an insider but you wont work there anymore. you dont know what is going on. plus you dont know what is way we chinese do business. for you has no sense for zic makes sense. for me makes sense. you shouldnt feel superior.

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Originally Posted by META4

Will Champ Motorsport enter any car at the coming AFR even at Zhuhai ?

3 or 4. michael is friend of frd he is going to do the best to race many more cars and in shanghai afos too cause 1 or 2 kids wanna try a good championship.

kfsracer · 11 Sep 2008, 14:26 (Ref:2287205)

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Originally Posted by Lam Pak

you call yourself an insider but you wont work there anymore. you dont know what is going on. plus you dont know what is way we chinese do business. for you has no sense for zic makes sense. for me makes sense. you shouldnt feel superior.

You know what just forget it... But FYI, I live in China and do business with chinese every day and have a chinese family as well (also running chinese business). And I don't feel superior, only that I am right in this case. But if it pleases you to think otherwise be my guest.

Now this is a racing forum so let's stick with racing discussion. In Bira, I don't think Rouget qas suppose to race at all, only put a name on the list. He didn't do the practices either.

Lam Pak · 17 Sep 2008, 14:37 (Ref:2292570)

30 cars for asian challenge in zic. 5 cars for champ. the gentlemans driver cup will be skyhigh next weekend. afos will end up on misery or disbelief.

META4 · 17 Sep 2008, 14:42 (Ref:2292577)

That is a good news for the Motorsport in Asia. At least they will have a decent Grid, nothing to compare to Formula Bmw,Formula V6 and FR2.0

Lam Pak · 17 Sep 2008, 14:50 (Ref:2292589)

good news for zhuhai circuit. not good news for asia. 70% of the grid is over forty years old. that is not what i wish for asia. i wanna see young kids racing. i wanna see the future. not old farts having fun.

META4 · 17 Sep 2008, 14:52 (Ref:2292592)

Do you have any information about Which team will be there with how many cars? ART,DTM,FRD,Saarinen,Champ? Will March3 come?

Lam Pak · 17 Sep 2008, 15:24 (Ref:2292612)

champ, art, modena, frd/psr, ptrs.

psr and frd are same team. m3 are not racing cause there are a team of shanghai. if they dont race they not beg to stay in zhuhai.

you squeeze to reply my comment. oldies are cure fo the itch in asia. i would like to know if you think the same for europe. fbmw europe with 50 years old drivers.

META4 · 17 Sep 2008, 15:28 (Ref:2292614)

Maybe what they should do is setting up teams of 2 cars : One "old" rich businessman racing (and paying for) with a young and fast asian driver.

Asa · 19 Sep 2008, 07:27 (Ref:2293578)

Entry list at Zhuhai
5. Jim Ka To, Frestech FRD
6. Zuo Xiao Long, Frestech FRD
7. Diana Rosario, Galaxy FRD
9. Zhang Shan Qi, PTRS
10. Alan Lee, Galaxy FRD
11. Ryan Haryanto, Champ
16. Wayne Shen, Modena
18. Douglas Moore, Privateer
21. Francis Tija, Modena
22. Leung Chi Hao, Champ
23. Luis Jorge Sa Silva, Champ
25. Christian Tjia, Modena
26. Geoffrey Kwong, PSR
27. Cao Hong Wei, PSR
28. Stephen Fan, Privateer
29. Shim Ching, PSR
30. Marcel Tjia, Modena
32. Wong Hon Tat, Privateer
36. David Lau, Galaxy FRD
38. Yung Hau Woon, Champ
66. Samson Chan, Ghiasports
68. John Shen, Modena
78. Kenneth Ma, Galaxy FRD
90. Michael Choi, Privateer

Total 24 cars entered.

Monkey Head · 20 Sep 2008, 02:43 (Ref:2294057)

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Originally Posted by Asa

Entry list at Zhuhai
5. Jim Ka To, Frestech FRD
6. Zuo Xiao Long, Frestech FRD
7. Diana Rosario, Galaxy FRD
9. Zhang Shan Qi, PTRS
10. Alan Lee, Galaxy FRD
11. Ryan Haryanto, Champ
16. Wayne Shen, Modena
18. Douglas Moore, Privateer
21. Francis Tija, Modena
22. Leung Chi Hao, Champ
23. Luis Jorge Sa Silva, Champ
25. Christian Tjia, Modena
26. Geoffrey Kwong, PSR
27. Cao Hong Wei, PSR
28. Stephen Fan, Privateer
29. Shim Ching, PSR
30. Marcel Tjia, Modena
32. Wong Hon Tat, Privateer
36. David Lau, Galaxy FRD
38. Yung Hau Woon, Champ
66. Samson Chan, Ghiasports
68. John Shen, Modena
78. Kenneth Ma, Galaxy FRD
90. Michael Choi, Privateer

Total 24 cars entered.

23 now as Micheal Choi decided to withdraw in very last minute
sound like he wants to concentrate in touringcar this weeknd

META4 · 20 Sep 2008, 03:00 (Ref:2294058)

No cars from ART, As far as i can see

Monkey Head · 20 Sep 2008, 03:06 (Ref:2294059)

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Originally Posted by META4

No cars from ART, As far as i can see

Douglas Moore has taken part in season opener with ART so I belive that's the same this weekend but entrant goes to 'privateers' by unclear reason.
Choi also with ART but he has pulled out,not sure on another two privateers,Fan and Wong.

Asa · 21 Sep 2008, 04:26 (Ref:2294481)

Race 1 result

1. Jim Ka To
2. Cao Hong-Wei
3. Geoffrey Kwong

Asa · 21 Sep 2008, 06:54 (Ref:2294497)

Race 2 result

1. Jim Ka To
2. Cao Hong-Wei
3. Geoffrey Kwong

**gomick** · 21 Sep 2008, 10:58 (Ref:2294563)

23 cars

- so, this is the better of the 2 asian formula renault chmpionships then

sequentialbox · 22 Sep 2008, 00:10 (Ref:2294844)

23 cars because most of them belongs to gentlemen based in zhuhai,you can guess that it will be back to 10 as soon they move to shanghai.

Pole in 1m38 as opposed to 1m35 last year....

Also Ryan Harianto (champ) disqualified from race 1 for fuel not conform and fuel pressure regulator again.

Still Zic doing a good job in promoting,full grand stand.

Sun 1 · 23 Sep 2008, 02:44 (Ref:2295757)

R-Harianto Disqualified.........why are you saying again? it isn't the first time??

META4 · 23 Sep 2008, 05:05 (Ref:2295791)

Seems like Champ Motorsport have nothing to Envy to FRD about cheating... sounds like they have "very good french mechanics".

After the "good mistake" of the engine Timing improving the engine power, next step fuel and fuel regulator...

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