Asian Formula Renault 2008 - Page 17

Sun 1 · 23 Sep 2008, 05:50 (Ref:2295796)

Yeah.....may be the fuel and the regulator is also msitakes....really unlucky this team.

Sun 1 · 23 Sep 2008, 07:20 (Ref:2295831)

Why FRD dont mention anything like that in their P-Release...

sequentialbox · 23 Sep 2008, 08:04 (Ref:2295848)

Again because already fuel regulator in sepang,

i believe that frd is afraid of Champ leaving to AFOS, so they don't make waves.

Shame cause Haryanto drove a great race 2 from the back of the grid.

Sun 1 · 23 Sep 2008, 09:09 (Ref:2295888)

Then any team entering a couple of cars could rule that series if I understand....what a lack of strengh from FRD.

META4 · 23 Sep 2008, 11:23 (Ref:2295986)

I do not really believe that Champ could leave AFR, I think drivers from Macau,HK and China Mainland are not really interested to race out of China like FR2.0Asia does. Who cares to race at Bira?

Lam Pak · 23 Sep 2008, 13:52 (Ref:2296095)

the french enginer of champ didnt out below and mixed the fuel. the team was innocent. it was human beeing mistake and isnt a grave moral wrong. frd didnt want excluding haryanto but renault guy did justice extreme. this is very bad cause they take away motivation from some teams. they are jaded.
in afr champ drivers one is angolan and one is indonesian. thye chose to stay in afr cause they had better chances to inflict podiums in afr than they have in afos. your depth of perception is chaotic.

META4 · 23 Sep 2008, 13:58 (Ref:2296105)

Can you tell for who are driving: Leung Chi Ho and Yung Hau Woon???

Do you mean that Champ did not know about the Fuel? What about the Fuel regulators and Wrong Engine Timing?

I reckon also that AFR is cheaper than FR2.0 Asia for youngsters

Lam Pak · 23 Sep 2008, 14:09 (Ref:2296114)

your depth of perception is messing afr with zhuahi races. victor yung hau woon is from hong kong and his car is not from champ. he bought a formula only for zhuhai races. leung chi ho nizzle a fund from macau foundation to race this weekend. he doesnt race fulltime. you gotta feel the diference.

champ and michael ho did not know about the fuel. human being shizzle. engine time was mistake of the french mechanic cause frd didnt wanted to build champ engine and the boy collapsed under presure. when the paprs crumpled champ thought bck to repair but no time and marshal saw.

FastisSlow · 24 Sep 2008, 00:16 (Ref:2296544)

AFR has become Mickey Mouse Racing...

It's sad to see such a good platform, which should promote chinese drivers supply, becoming such a political scene ruled by arbitral decision and lack of fair play.

Kato might be the only proper driver, even if his good days are behind him, and 16 drivers are held within ... 10 seconds !!! when other F.Renault championships can have 16 drivers within 1 second...

Couldn't all the people who could make things happen there sit together and have a big and decisive chat to put this mess back on track ?

I am not asking for much, only for an equitable playground with teams providing cars complying with the rulebook, organizers sticking to organizing race and not interferring with stewart decisions and drivers still in their teens with a future ahead of them.

I know I am dreaming... but I really feel sorry to see all the elements needed for success united but spoiled like this.

by the way, how come K. Ma is dns ?
(Just kidding

sequentialbox · 24 Sep 2008, 01:08 (Ref:2296557)

FRD now got the proper equipment to analyse fuel, and it was not a mixing mistake.
Lam pak why do you have to always defend champ, are you working there?

As for the AFR it is not getting better.
Well at least when Renault is here they have to apply the rules.

I really hope there is only one proper championship next year.

Lam Pak · 24 Sep 2008, 11:32 (Ref:2296829)

renault is not ruling. frd rules. kato gonna win. since the begining he was apooint to be champion. the champ was not perfect and no saint babe but renault is attacking them from the begining. champ no problem in afos. champ is been chase in frd. for three times was inocent. other team not check by marshalls. HEY, WHAT YOU GOT TO HIDE?

META4 · 24 Sep 2008, 11:39 (Ref:2296842)

If you also you reckon that Champ was not "Saint and not Perfect" then Renault is allowed to disqualified them...

It is also funny that you can say one thing and its opposit in the same post "Three times was innocent"

I guess if Champ has no problem in FR2.0 Asia , the reason is probably because the organisator is not really in position to offence anybody with only 6 cars on the grid ...

sequentialbox · 25 Sep 2008, 00:05 (Ref:2297362)

for info last race Kato engine(FRD) and QI (ptrs) were both totally stripped and nothing was found, unlike champ engine in sepang.

I Believe that Kato is the best driver in AFR so what's wrong with him winning.

Champ has no problem in AFOS because they run one car ad AFOS made it clear from the beggining that scrutineering will be very tight and infrigement will be punished heavily.

Sun 1 · 25 Sep 2008, 06:16 (Ref:2297448)

Lam Park, I respect you very much for the knowledge that you have in the Asian Motorsport Scene but i think it is time for you to recognize that Champ is always invloved in some "dirty" situation as far as the legality of the car is concern...Mistake in Shanghai for engine timing, mistake in Sepang for the cylender head shaved,mistake in fuel in Zhuhai ( 102 that the mechanic took accidently in an old tank) ......and the fuel regulator? does it come from a Zhuhai-Jetta-Taxi because FRD had no stock for sell??
Its always been like this and since Hanss Lin started to race in 05.

Lam Pak · 25 Sep 2008, 13:18 (Ref:2297655)

hanss lin was the most clean victory of asian formula reanult. he was a prodigy. he was champion.

zic gonna hav new race in 4-5 october and champ can win. we speak.

sequentialbox · 25 Sep 2008, 13:29 (Ref:2297662)

Hanss lin cleanest victory in AFR

.
Engine tires and fuel lol.

Hanss was quite good but just look at what he did in Asian V6 in the best team at the time.

I think cheating started with him for Champ.

Anyway that was before.

Sun 1 · 26 Sep 2008, 02:37 (Ref:2298074)

Quite true Sequentialbox,Lin won because of that cheating AND also because at that time (2005) the level was very poor in AFR, Lin made a come back in 2006 in Shanghai and got his ass kicked big by time those Saarinen,Impreatori and even Jaafar i think.
And look where he is now...not even racing while his ex team mate is at the door of F1.

Lam Pak · 27 Sep 2008, 14:07 (Ref:2298960)

hanss lin po heng scored a well-deserved wins in Formula BMW Asia before and dont set him free.

zhuhai gonna host frd championship race next weekend on ccc. 23 entries confirm.

Sun 1 · 27 Sep 2008, 14:38 (Ref:2298970)

Ok Lam Pak, Hanss Lin is the best driver of the world ( but has no luck,that's why he is not ion F1) and Champ never cheats, (They also have no luck ...lol) and Michael Ho will win Macao f3. Lets move on...

Any new drivers coming for the AFR/ccc week-end??

Lam Pak · 28 Sep 2008, 14:17 (Ref:2299496)

ptrs hav a second chinese kid and his race is will be the first time

Sun 1 · 1 Oct 2008, 12:19 (Ref:2301968)

Any one testing those days in Zhuhai???

sequentialbox · 1 Oct 2008, 23:43 (Ref:2302421)

Apparently PTRS decided to skip this round and modena as well, and ART got only 2.
So already 7 cars less than last time.

sequentialbox · 4 Oct 2008, 10:01 (Ref:2303889)

11 cars in qualify,9 from frd.

pole Haryanto (ART) who was last in last AFOS QUalify, that tells about the level.

Monkey Head · 4 Oct 2008, 10:39 (Ref:2303904)

Qualify Result:

Rio Haryanto ART
Cao Wan Wei PSR
Jim KATO FRD
Luis Sa Sliva Champ
Geoffery Kwong PSR

sequentialbox · 4 Oct 2008, 10:44 (Ref:2303909)

Hi Monkey Head,
Anything funny at scrutineering today?
Was there any Renault Officials or did they gave up?

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