Level 2 Franchises

tiko · 3 Apr 2006, 08:33 (Ref:1568804)

Pondering through the amazing world that is V8Supercar Franchises, it is interesting to note that the Larry Perkins Jack Daniels Racing outfit run under two seperate Level 2 Franchises.

If you believe what you read, car #7 formerly #24 is Bap/Paul Romano's L2 being leased by Perkins and car #11 is the former #43 of PWR seen in Team Brock paint at selected rounds in 04 at the hands of Krause somebody?

The whole point of raising this subject leaves a few questions open for discussion...

Why are their still L1's and L2's?
Does Perkins or JDR receive any form of recognition or upgrading because their L2's are outperforming other L2's and indeed other L1's?
And is anyone aware of what TEGA have planned for the future of franchises the quantities of franchises?

cmifsud · 3 Apr 2006, 08:37 (Ref:1568808)

You've just opened Pandora's box I'm afraid

rdmdog · 3 Apr 2006, 09:09 (Ref:1568819)

"Krause somebody" is Davie Krause, a top guy and a pretty good driver, taking his VS to a few wins at the Calder round of the TCC against some newer machines a good indication of his ability.

tiko · 3 Apr 2006, 10:05 (Ref:1568856)

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Originally Posted by rdmdog

"Krause somebody" is Davie Krause, a top guy and a pretty good driver, taking his VS to a few wins at the Calder round of the TCC against some newer machines a good indication of his ability.

Yes I forgot his firstname, David Krause. My apologies if I sounded rude or sounded harsh against David. I just remember seeing the name on the windscreen!

**GTRMagic** · 3 Apr 2006, 10:32 (Ref:1568878)

Only 21 months till the new 28 car TEGA franchise agreement comes into play... there will be one grade of licence for all.. and for all the same cut

rdmdog · 3 Apr 2006, 11:04 (Ref:1568901)

It seems now to be travelling in ever decreasing circles ready to dissapear up its own Backside would be a better word here

Unless, the leading "Development" series teams are offered starts at selected rounds.

Imagine trying to put only 28 cars on the grid at Bathurst.

Im hoping this is another silly April 1 joke!!

**GTRMagic** · 3 Apr 2006, 11:06 (Ref:1568903)

Sadly not rdmdog... TEGA are deadly serious

sizzle · 4 Apr 2006, 02:55 (Ref:1569696)

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Originally Posted by rdmdog

Imagine trying to put only 28 cars on the grid at Bathurst.

racer69 · 4 Apr 2006, 03:01 (Ref:1569699)

To VESA Bathurst is no more important than Queensland Raceway, Tony's said that since 1996 (no sacred sites.....)

Adelaide is the biggie, best Touring Car event in the world according to channel 10 remember

Vanilla Dice · 4 Apr 2006, 06:19 (Ref:1569756)

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Originally Posted by racer69

Adelaide is the biggie, best Touring Car event in the world according to channel 10 remember

Yes they keep saying that.

Isnt there a popular misconception that if you say something over and over again, eventually it will be picked up as an irrefutable fact?

peckstar · 4 Apr 2006, 08:54 (Ref:1569877)

actually it is the best touring car event in the world. there are none better. ive been to them all and the rest are found wanting

but i guess it comes down to your intepretation of how you define best. or event or touring car

one five five · 4 Apr 2006, 09:16 (Ref:1569888)

You've obviously never been to Spa (pre-2000 anyway), nor to Bathurst.

peckstar · 4 Apr 2006, 09:21 (Ref:1569895)

been to both

and as i said best touring car event in the world, dont confuse the meaning of the word event as meaning the same as race

there are better touring cars races, but there are not any better events

pete55 · 4 Apr 2006, 10:08 (Ref:1569926)

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Originally Posted by tiko

Why are their still L1's and L2's?

That i'm sorry is something i cannot understand. Even more so when you realise that TEGA has reclaimed the two L1's ex Larkham, now sitting unused.

WebberForWDC · 4 Apr 2006, 10:26 (Ref:1569942)

Are they gonna ask the fans about the 28 cars?

The back of the grid is already looking thin these days already!

With 35 cars, if you take 28th there's a few cars behind you, you certainly don't look so bad, it's a decent spot really. But if 28th and last it ain't so good! That end of the grid will increasingly have questions asked of them.

Top 25 is decent enough with 35 cars, your getting close to being down at the very back with 31 cars, and with 28 it's seems a poor effort. That can't be good for a category that prides itself that it's a tough ask to even crack the top 20.

rustyinsthoz · 4 Apr 2006, 10:46 (Ref:1569963)

The Clipsal an event? More like a social occasion.

pete55 · 4 Apr 2006, 10:47 (Ref:1569965)

By 2010 the number of starters may well be only 20.

Rombles1 · 4 Apr 2006, 12:27 (Ref:1570063)

Is this all just a reaction to the fact that there are only 31 cars going around this year, so they want to make that look deliberate, and hope we just forget what they said for years (and we all complained about) about wanting 32 cars on the grid? If a deal had been done to get a 32nd car out there, would this issue have come up?

Also, how would it be proposed to split the 28 licences between 3 or 4 manufacturers as may one day need to happen?

racer69 · 4 Apr 2006, 17:49 (Ref:1570694)

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Originally Posted by WebberForWDC

Are they gonna ask the fans about the 28 cars?

The back of the grid is already looking thin these days already!

With 35 cars, if you take 28th there's a few cars behind you, you certainly don't look so bad, it's a decent spot really. But if 28th and last it ain't so good! That end of the grid will increasingly have questions asked of them.

Top 25 is decent enough with 35 cars, your getting close to being down at the very back with 31 cars, and with 28 it's seems a poor effort. That can't be good for a category that prides itself that it's a tough ask to even crack the top 20.

They didn't ask the fans about limiting it to the 'chosen 35' back in mid-2002, and they never asked the fans about limiting it to 32 from when they've been talking about it since 2000.

They didn't ask the fans about limiting Bathurst to the regulars plus invited Konica Series cars.

The didn't ask the fans about limiting Bathurst to the main series franchise holders only.

Why would they ask the fans now about limiting the field to 28?

Robert Ryan · 5 Apr 2006, 01:42 (Ref:1571036)

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The Clipsal an event? More like a social occasion

Been to a NASCAR/RL/CCWS races in the US..so are they.

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