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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/off-...-and-20-a.html
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http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-04-20-007.jpg
I can however not imagine how this would look in a front-engined configuration... |
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Heres a lot of pics!
http://www.racingsportscars.com/make/photo/Grid.html But i imagine it very much like the Panoz Lmp1!, with more advanced aerodynamics!. And perhaps with the new "thru the car instead of over and around" the car aerodynamics, the front engine could be an advantage!? |
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Not a single styling cue from the Panoz LMP1 (except where the engine is).
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hugewally, any estimated date for a debut? (either on paper or track)
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Autosprint (check mariantic.co.uk/lmp) has revived the rumour.
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That is interesting. From what I gather from the forums and the Bear and such I thought that the Panoz group or Elan Motorsports had laid off a sizable number of people. So does that mean someone else has been contracted to do the build? or will they be hiring?
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i can't see how this will happen financially, either.
roadATL has been hurting for money for a few years as is Panoz/Elan...(i blame the IRL, but that is for (an)other thread(s) somewhere else). i still am optimistic about any new car to the series, especially this one. as usual, seeing is the only way of believing. |
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The Abruzzi was Panoz' supposed new road car that has supposedly now been in development for like 5+ years, despite no one really knowing anything about it...
I love Panoz, and I'd love to see another Panoz LMP, but I just can't see it happening right now... |
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what's so hard to understand? front engine will NOT work with the current regulations. The distance between the rear wing and the now huge rollover structure is too small, among other things.
They were thinking of putting their V8 in a Courage in 2005... now that's what they should have done or be looking at doing! |
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So Coupe or Spyder? Is a 10 year old design as a grid filler better or worse than a gt3 porsche?
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