NZV8's 2011/12 - Page 8

mountainstar · 6 Dec 2011, 01:15 (Ref:2995816)

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Originally Posted by RogerH

On the basis that one of Tier 1's aims is to draw spectators to circuit racing and encourage motor racing participation, I would think that some of the historic V8 saloons and F5000 could be candidates.

From what I can see, there are more entrants and more paying spectators at the likes of the Bruce McLaren and Chris Amon Festivals than at recent Tier 1 meetings - is there a message here?

The NZV8s (and I presume Supertourers) are expensive to run and thus require corporates to help pay the way. In the current economic times this sponsorship is much harder to get and it has the result of diminished entries. If we moved to a class of racing that was less dependant on sponsorship then entries may increase.

One of the concerns with NZ circuit racing is that I would think the average age of participants is progressively getting older - we are not attracting the younger drivers to join the ranks. Tier 1 is putting itself out to the public as the pinnacle of NZ motor sport - is the product sufficiently attractive to encourage new younger drivers to join the sport so they can aspire to this pinnacle?

The younger drivers these days seem more interested in Japanese cars - these are the cars they have grown up with. While most of us have an interest in American, European and Australian cars and race and promote these for racing, the "market" may be interested in something else.

I had a look in at a drift meeting a while ago - most competitors were under 30, there were a huge number of spectators and I don't think any of the cars competing were not Japanese. Are these the sort of cars where the future of NZ motor sport lies?

Who knows? People's taste can change as they get older as well. Most people at 35 are not going to be driving the type of car they did at 18, or into the same things either.

People under 30 are getting into things like drifting because the cost of entry is not that high and you can even be competitive with not a lot of money compared to major circuit racing series. It's also loud and showy, which a lot of modern circuit racing lacks.

I don't really have the answer except to say the market will adjust in time to what it wants and what it can afford.

Axeman444 · 6 Dec 2011, 03:46 (Ref:2995850)

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Originally Posted by promax

2 non Japanese drift cars in NZ..

if my eyes aren't deceiving me, there are 3 non Japanese drift cars in those 2 photos

promax · 6 Dec 2011, 05:23 (Ref:2995865)

you talking about a non Holden Aussie car?

Axeman444 · 6 Dec 2011, 05:49 (Ref:2995872)

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Originally Posted by promax

you talking about a non Holden Aussie car?

...if my eyes aren't deceiving me as mentioned, yes

KLR93 · 6 Dec 2011, 05:51 (Ref:2995873)

We get a few oldies competing at D1 events too ya know

The drift crowd follow their driver, or their engine package. Some people like V8 conversions others love rotaries much in the same way we have ford vs holden. 6 cyl or 4? theres so much variety and thers somthing for everyone young and old, the best part is in the world of drifting a little 86kw toyota corolla can deal it to a 450hp v8

Ive said this before, at the end of the day we havent done anything revolutionary, just the basics - cheap gate sales, the ability to bring in your food & drink (depending on the track) and good door-to-door rubbing 'racing'

Drifting will be everyone's biggest competition.

Its all about promoting to the right market and this year we are targeting families more so than we have in the past. V8 Racing in NZ is very much still a top tier form of motorsport and somthing people love to watch - problem is youve been hurt by **** poor promotion of drivers and the series itself. You talk to any of the V8ST guys and they are just amazed at how much theve been left behind in the world of promotion and especial social media. The top NZV8 teams over the last few years have had to promote the series themselves while TMC sit on their asses.

Its just basics!! A website that works and DOESNT look like it was made on microsoft frontpage - actually ive seen better websites made back in my high school computer classes. Social media that's updated regularly - a billboard and a bit of signage so people know a race meeting is actually on, a tv ad that doesn't have clint brown narrating it with cliche graphics and most of this doesn't actually cost an arm & leg, its quite affordable.

All it takes is a bit of effort and a bit of smart thinking in the unique cuthroat-media market that NZ has

Oh, and open up media accreditation for a start - far more exposure for teams drivers and sponsors.

RATTLA has done a bit of drifting too....

Mr Revhead · 6 Dec 2011, 06:52 (Ref:2995888)

Yeah but drifting doesn't appeal to us motorsport fans

promax · 6 Dec 2011, 07:07 (Ref:2995892)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

...if my eyes aren't deceiving me as mentioned, yes

well it is behind a Holden.. so it might be hehe

i'm slightly one eyed

KLR93 · 6 Dec 2011, 07:45 (Ref:2995902)

Hah.

It doesnt have to appeal to 'motorSPORT' fans because its pulling numbers through the gates who like cars.

There is no debate, fact is its a sport - some people just need to get their head around it isnt about setting the fastest time or getting across the line first. It may be a judged sport but it is no different to a ref at a rugby match or the scoring at most of the olympic games. Its competitive, popular and on the rise and it IS the biggest competition circuit racing event organizers are going to have to beat to get anywhere in these fast changing times...

Mr Revhead · 6 Dec 2011, 08:09 (Ref:2995907)

Exactly, it's in the same class as those other games

KLR93 · 6 Dec 2011, 08:15 (Ref:2995909)

The games that arent in financial and diplomatic crisis and can pull crowds yes

promax · 6 Dec 2011, 08:35 (Ref:2995913)

drifting isn't like rugby.. it's more like ballroom dancing

In hot, dry conditions and in front of a 4000-strong crowd Whittaker withstood huge pressure as he battled his way to the top spot and $5000 worth of prizes courtesy winner's award sponsor Drift Max, beating local driver Matt Jackson (MJM Mazda RX7) to get into the Top 8

surely a Tier 1 meet can beat 4,000

bludvl_x19 · 6 Dec 2011, 08:45 (Ref:2995915)

Say what you like about drifting, but it is getting people involved at a 'club' level thanks to its affordability, drawing crowds at national level thanks to the excitement and show that it provides, and it is doing so a global scale. It is one of the few sectors of motorsport that is actually growing in popularity.

It isn't my cup of tea, but I can see how and why it is so attractive to the young market that nearly every entertainment business is going after.

KLR93 · 6 Dec 2011, 09:32 (Ref:2995928)

4,000 isnt bad for 1 field of cars, we had similar numbers at manfield

Also only 1 day, not a crowd multiplied by 3 days despite the same people attending the same days

DRIFDY · 6 Dec 2011, 18:47 (Ref:2996109)

Yea thers still a old guard running alot of the motorsport in nz.I find it in the club I belong to thay just dont listen.

KLR93 · 7 Dec 2011, 02:30 (Ref:2996240)

Any hint of an Entry list yet...

Foggys Year me thinks going by the field at round 1... unless its another courtroom battle

promax · 7 Dec 2011, 19:27 (Ref:2996634)

E36ST posted a list a couple of pages back

EZY PEEL · 8 Dec 2011, 19:41 (Ref:2997186)

Flying down to Christchurch later on this morning. According to the weather report on RADIOSPORT 1332 AM (Auckland)http://www.radiosport.co.nz/ the outlook is overcast & fine

Mr Revhead · 8 Dec 2011, 19:46 (Ref:2997188)

Yep I'll be there this weekend too. Hopefully it's not as hot as the Skope meeting in Feb
Will be interesting to see the support classes too. I hear there's some pretty cool things running in the GT classes.

promax · 8 Dec 2011, 20:01 (Ref:2997197)

fine sounds good! let's hope we get some good racing and a decent crowd

isoskim · 8 Dec 2011, 22:14 (Ref:2997270)

http://www.canterburycarclub.co.nz/L...%20Results.php

Live Timing for this weekend if anyone's interested.

promax · 9 Dec 2011, 00:25 (Ref:2997326)

the new boy in utes tops the list first time out..

1. Hugh Gardiner 1:41.268

2. Andrew Waite 1:41.868

3. Mike Lightfoot 1:41.979

4. Scott McKelvie 1:42.371

5. Graham Beirne 1:42.403

6. Christopher Hanley 1:42.468

7. David Stewart 1:42.581

8. Geoffrey Spencer 1:42.891

9. David Kernohan 1:43.345

10. James Urquhart 1:43.666

11. Brett Rudd 1:43.992

12. Jeffrey Kernohan 1:44.691

Fairlane GTA · 9 Dec 2011, 02:20 (Ref:2997352)

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Originally Posted by isoskim

http://www.canterburycarclub.co.nz/L...%20Results.php

Live Timing for this weekend if anyone's interested.

I'm interested, so thanks for that

.

promax · 9 Dec 2011, 23:22 (Ref:2997796)

Lap Record Tim Edgell - Ford Falcon BA - 1:30.122 (Nov 2010)

T14 - BNT V8s - Testing 2
Angus Fogg 1:29.622

someone is having a good day

Chappelli · 10 Dec 2011, 01:27 (Ref:2997830)

Foggy is smoking 'em.

Short's picked up a LOT of pace between rounds.

and Edgell probably ain't where he'd like to be.

Icarus_nz · 10 Dec 2011, 03:17 (Ref:2997863)

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Originally Posted by isoskim

http://www.canterburycarclub.co.nz/L...%20Results.php

Live Timing for this weekend if anyone's interested.

Nice to be able to get live timing without being bent over and raped. Good work Ruapuna fellas!

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