V8 SuperTourers in NZ - 'Car Of Tomorrow'

[kiwiracer]

Originally Posted by harcey

i believe MP owns 51%.............................if he bails out this early then it opens up many scenarios....yes

Looking at the Companies office Website Mark Petch has equal share with Garry Pedersen and Wayne Andersen (126 Shares each), Christopher Abbott, John McIntyre, Paul Ceprnich and Wayne McLaughlin have 125 Shares each.

Whos Christopher Abbott, seems to be the odd man out here, whats his role in the company? All the other names seem common enough.

So if Petch has 51% some others must have sold shares at some stage... Unlesss its all ******** in the first place

[on_to_it]

Originally Posted by kiwiracer

Whos Christopher Abbott, seems to be the odd man out here, whats his role in the company? All the other names seem common enough.

Abbott is a Barrister based in Havelock North, and Chairman of the Board for V8ST. He's been involved in motorsport for years and was involved with the redevelopment of the Taupo Motorsport Park.

[speedreader]

Originally Posted by kiwiracer
Whos Christopher Abbott, seems to be the odd man out here, whats his role in the company? All the other names seem common enough.

Originally Posted by on_to_it
Abbott is a Barrister based in Havelock North, and Chairman of the Board for V8ST. He's been involved in motorsport for years and was involved with the redevelopment of the Taupo Motorsport Park.

Chris Abbott is also a very accomplished racer in his own right who, along with his brother, prepared and raced some very nice Formula Ford's in the late 80's & 90's

[kiwiracer]

Originally Posted by speedreader

Chris Abbott is also a very accomplished racer in his own right who, along with his brother, prepared and raced some very nice Formula Ford's in the late 80's & 90's

Thanks for that, a little hazy on whos who and backgrounds. Formula Ford back then was pretty good if I remember rightly, plenty of modern cars and bigs fields, a little different to today. Maybe NZST could have sometype of Single Seater class alongside the main class..

[Blackpearl]

Originally Posted by harcey

i believe MP owns 51%.............................if he bails out this early then it opens up many scenarios....yes

You heard a whisper, yet never checked the companies website to see if true?

What's it like in simpleton?

[harcey]

Originally Posted by Blackpearl

You heard a whisper, yet never checked the companies website to see if true?

What's it like in simpleton?

we will see......bookmark my post.........

[Blackpearl]

Originally Posted by harcey

we will see......bookmark my post.........

What part? The 51 percent share holding by petch that doesn't exist?

Or the team leaders?

[promax]

woohoo! exciting st stuff happened at the speedshow this week awesome! let's post all this exciting st stuff in here! let's get it on! yeah!

[harcey]

Originally Posted by Blackpearl

What part? The 51 percent share holding by petch that doesn't exist?

Or the team leaders?

yep,my error there..is MP and another shareholder tryin to sell out....i see MP dropped as leader of the pack last week and meetings between parties of V8ST/MNZ and nzv8 re future combined possibilities during past few days..........
It will happen lads....sometime in the not too distant future all we be under one umbrella and you all will have to be nice to each other....

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by harcey

sometime in the not too distant future all we be under one umbrella and you all will have to be nice to each other....

and where is the fun in that ???

[Southern Man]

Originally Posted by smokin'joe

and where is the fun in that ???

Watching some people slither back under their rock only to re-emerge once again with a new skin and a new forum name suggesting that things are better now than one finding an unopened jar of Marmite in their pantry.

[Munroman]

Does anyone have any information on how the LS7 engine and Quaiffe gearbox combination is holding up?

[onza]

Originally Posted by Munroman

Does anyone have any information on how the LS7 engine and Quaiffe gearbox combination is holding up?

There have been issues with both.
There are/have been remedies for both also

[Munroman]

Originally Posted by onza

There have been issues with both.
There are/have been remedies for both also

Thanks for that. Anyone have any more info specifically on the issues?

[Goat Boy]

I'm surprised nobody picked this up off the ST Facebook page:

Mark Petch, V8ST's Managing Director, unveiled the category's "Engine of the Future" at the CRC Speedshow and whilst the eye-catching new induction manifold with its eight individual intake runners may be some time away from making its appearance in the category, the new Dailey Engineering billet sump and integral dry sump pump have already been approved for fitment in time for the Pukekohe 500K race, and there are 25 units in production right now.

Dailey Engineering is the world's leading manufacturer and designers of custom made billet dry-sump pans and integrated pumps, said Petch. "We have been working with Bill Dailey for some time now and under Rob Benson the production is now underway to supply us with a purpose-built dry sump system that will eliminate some lubrication issues we previously suffered from.

"In the meantime, we will carry out extensive testing of Harrop Engineering's new Hurricane inlet manifold, so that we can progress to that unit hopefully in time for our 2013 season. It's a logical step as it’s a bolt-on component that raises horsepower in combination with the new dry sump to in excess of 600BHP at 6,500 RPM."

600 next season eh? That would, I would have thought, make them well and truly faster than a V8SC. And with a full grid getting up there in terms of spectcle too, although they just need a "loudener" on their exhausts...

[MacrosNZ]

Malcolm Finch, the 2011 Speedsport scholarship winner seems to have himself a V8Challenge Cup car now.

[Sidewayz]

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

I'm surprised nobody picked this up off the ST Facebook page:

Mark Petch, V8ST's Managing Director, unveiled the category's "Engine of the Future" at the CRC Speedshow and whilst the eye-catching new induction manifold with its eight individual intake runners may be some time away from making its appearance in the category, the new Dailey Engineering billet sump and integral dry sump pump have already been approved for fitment in time for the Pukekohe 500K race, and there are 25 units in production right now.

Dailey Engineering is the world's leading manufacturer and designers of custom made billet dry-sump pans and integrated pumps, said Petch. "We have been working with Bill Dailey for some time now and under Rob Benson the production is now underway to supply us with a purpose-built dry sump system that will eliminate some lubrication issues we previously suffered from.

"In the meantime, we will carry out extensive testing of Harrop Engineering's new Hurricane inlet manifold, so that we can progress to that unit hopefully in time for our 2013 season. It's a logical step as it’s a bolt-on component that raises horsepower in combination with the new dry sump to in excess of 600BHP at 6,500 RPM."

600 next season eh? That would, I would have thought, make them well and truly faster than a V8SC. And with a full grid getting up there in terms of spectcle too, although they just need a "loudener" on their exhausts...

I love how the 'Car of Tomorrow' has a 'Engine of the Future'
'So i've heard' you can have the new donk for only 38K!, sweet add it to the 'optional' upgrade list you have to do to make the car reliable.

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by Sidewayz

I love how the 'Car of Tomorrow' has a 'Engine of the Future'
'So i've heard' you can have the new donk for only 38K!, sweet add it to the 'optional' upgrade list you have to do to make the car reliable.

so what is the total cost of one of these fangled new Supertourer that were heralded as cheaper than the then current NZV8??

is the current train of thought that it's gonna be faster and more expensive than the Australian counterpart

[Sidewayz]

Originally Posted by smokin'joe

so what is the total cost of one of these fangled new Supertourer that were heralded as cheaper than the then current NZV8??

is the current train of thought that it's gonna be faster and more expensive than the Australian counterpart

Again 'I heard' that a few had spent over 300K getting to R1 at Hampton. The meters been running ever since....

[Goat Boy]

Originally Posted by Sidewayz

I love how the 'Car of Tomorrow' has a 'Engine of the Future'
'So i've heard' you can have the new donk for only 38K!, sweet add it to the 'optional' upgrade list you have to do to make the car reliable.

By all accounts that's still cheaper than a current NZV8 engine to maintain, but if all it is is a new inlet manifold to bolt on then I very much doubt you have "heard" correctly.

But there is also the cost of the dry-sump improvements, so not sure what that would be. Can't see why either requires a new engine though, and as I have noticed that the cars all seem to have engines I can't imagine why you'd be replacing them in their entirety.

A driver friend of mine believes that the whole cooling/oil surge thing was all down to preparation and choice of lubricants anyway, including gearbox issues. They have had no problems to date because they prepare their car like a race car should be prepared - thoroughly.

Ironic though that the LS7 was chosen for the fact that it was dry-sumped off the shelf, given the issues to date I wonder if that decision had to be made now whether that would still be the unit of choice?

[NZSTfan]

600hp for next year! fantastic news

It does make you wonder that when the Supercars come here over the next 5 years, will we one day see the SuperTourer as the support category if the NZV8's dont get their act together?

It would be great to see/hear both classes in action if it could happen, and i think it would open the category up even further to some of our Aussie friends.

ST's just seem to be setting the pace in NZ at the moment (no pun intended) and by all accounts the CRC speedshow had a very professional feel to the ST stand while the NZV8 stand was just a painted VE (nicely painted though!) with a handful of production engines sitting outside the cars. Although i do realise that the VE did have an LS3 in it, but i would like to see if it had the TT g/box in it as well, and if the thing has been started up yet and actually driven?

[Goat Boy]

Originally Posted by smokin'joe

so what is the total cost of one of these fangled new Supertourer that were heralded as cheaper than the then current NZV8??

is the current train of thought that it's gonna be faster and more expensive than the Australian counterpart

Erm, suspect not (though I know you jest) - the cost of running a single V8SC for a season is over 5 times that - and let's face it, if you want to run in the top level of motorsport in NZ then I guess you won't be pleading poverty in the first place...

[BlueBlood]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

It does make you wonder that when the Supercars come here over the next 5 years, will we one day see the SuperTourer as the support category if the NZV8's dont get their act together?

Nope, will never happen.

IF they are faster than a V8SC and look like a V8SC, there is no way thst TC will have them as a support to the main game.

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by Sidewayz

Again 'I heard' that a few had spent over 300K getting to R1 at Hampton. The meters been running ever since....

and what was the original build cost expected to be, somewhere around 180-200K , wasn't it??

[Goat Boy]

Originally Posted by smokin'joe

and what was the original build cost expected to be, somewhere around 180-200K , wasn't it??

You might be quite interested to read Greg Lancaster's open letter in the other thread on MSNZ, he goes into the costs of the new NZV8 too...