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Old 30 Jan 2010, 15:33 (Ref:2622295)   #101
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Some video footage of the new Williams car.

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-...-new-williams/

Whether or not we were meant to see this, is not quite clear.
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 15:50 (Ref:2622299)   #102
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Of course they would. But the diffusers are legal, and the wording in the regulations has not been changed for this season. Therefore, in the eyes of some, all 2010 cars must still be illegal.

I can't believe that FOTA haven't clarified this rule during the off-season.
Just because a decision is made does not mean it's the correct one. Many decisions in F1 in the last couple of years show this perfectly.
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 16:18 (Ref:2622307)   #103
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Just because a decision is made does not mean it's the correct one.
How do 'we' know that it wasn't the correct one?

A ruling determined that it was the correct decision or at least the decision by which the rules would be interpreted by. Each side argued their case and one side won. All very democratic.


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Many decisions in F1 in the last couple of years show this perfectly.
Yes, I agree, and not just decisions by the FIA.
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 16:25 (Ref:2622308)   #104
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Odd exhaust note on that Williams car.
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 16:29 (Ref:2622311)   #105
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Odd exhaust note on that Williams car.
Ah! I thought so too.

Redesigned exhaust systems could have big effects on fuel consumption.
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 16:42 (Ref:2622313)   #106
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Odd exhaust note on that Williams car.
Sounds like a modernized DFV.
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 17:49 (Ref:2622334)   #107
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Oh, and since when were barge boards legalized again? They're definitely prominent on both the Ferrari and McLaren.
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 17:53 (Ref:2622338)   #108
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It's not that they are illegal. What is illegal is building parts of the car in certain areas. Those bargeboards were on the cars last year. They are legal
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 18:00 (Ref:2622342)   #109
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The cars are starting to look like "Transformers" aren't they....
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 18:13 (Ref:2622349)   #110
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Some video footage of the new Williams car.

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-...-new-williams/

Whether or not we were meant to see this, is not quite clear.
Royal Bank of Scotland still in?
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 18:24 (Ref:2622360)   #111
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Royal Bank of Scotland still in?
Locked in, until the end of this or next year i think. That does sound a bit more like an older engine doesn't it, I'm intrigued now to hear the rest of them!
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 18:28 (Ref:2622366)   #112
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The cars are starting to look like "Transformers" aren't they....
The Ferrari must therefore be 'Optimus Prime' the 'Autobot' leader.
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So who's leading the decepticons?
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 18:39 (Ref:2622382)   #114
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The cars are starting to look like "Transformers" aren't they....
Yeh, but let's hope this similarity only concerns the cars, because transformers is a really crap movie...
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Old 30 Jan 2010, 18:42 (Ref:2622392)   #115
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So who's leading the decepticons?
Some dude called 'Megatron' apparently. Obviously Mercedes would qualify for decepticon leader, since they managed to transform out of two other entities that took everyone by surprise.
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The Ferrari must therefore be 'Optimus Prime' the 'Autobot' leader.
Ah, you mean Convoy.
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Old 31 Jan 2010, 10:53 (Ref:2622690)   #117
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BMW launch 13.30 GMT, Renault launch at around 15.30 GMT.
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Any live feeds available for either?
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You could try their websites.

http://www.bmw-sauber-f1-team.ch/en/

For some reason Renault's isn't available!?
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The cars are starting to look like "Transformers" aren't they....
With no japanese people involved...
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Old 31 Jan 2010, 12:42 (Ref:2622745)   #121
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That's why I was asking, I'd had a goose at the websites earlier and Sauber lacked anything (interesting that their website is still BMW Sauber....) and Renault is under development.

Pretty fail if you ask me- Not publicising their launch on their own websites.
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With no japanese people involved...
Don't be too sure of that! They're working away, behind the scenes. Getting ready to plan their next attack.
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Maybe now that Sauber is no longer sponsored by Red Bull or Credit Suisse, i hope they can paint the car black again just like '93 and '94.
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Here it is:





A tidy looking car and genuinely no sponsors logos - even more old school than Brawn last year. Can't wait to see it out on track
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Nice one Jab!

Again, the narrow tyres are quite obvious on the Sauber.

Strangely, it's livery seems almost BMW-like!



Nice wheels!

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