USCC (leave your axe outside) - Page 3

HJJ · 16 Mar 2013, 02:09 (Ref:3219148)

But wait, there's more..

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John Dagys ‏@johndagys Look for a significant announcement regarding U.S. DTM/GRAND-AM/Super GT on March 26 in NYC.

HJJ · 16 Mar 2013, 02:11 (Ref:3219149)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

I guess that SCCA World Challenge will have to keep joining IndyCar at whatever weekends it can, and fill the rest of the calendar with SCCA Pro Racing weekends.

World Challenge is SCCA Pro Racing, isn't it?

TF110 · 16 Mar 2013, 02:24 (Ref:3219151)

SuperGT/DTM in America is what I'm looking forward to most so far. DP to LMP2 level remains a mystery that could be great, or not.

Beetle · 16 Mar 2013, 02:41 (Ref:3219156)

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Originally Posted by TF110

SuperGT/DTM in America is what I'm looking forward to most so far. DP to LMP2 level remains a mystery that could be great, or not.

Purist · 16 Mar 2013, 02:46 (Ref:3219158)

So, DTM North America with F1 at New Jersey in 2014?

Okay, I'm kidding, but that was too good to resist.

(Honestly though, if DTM and SuperGT become more or less identical, I may stop paying particular attention to either one of them. This will be heightened further if they keep adding other cars that I can see in other series elsewhere.)

TF110 · 16 Mar 2013, 04:42 (Ref:3219185)

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Originally Posted by Beetle

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106071

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Originally Posted by Purist

So, DTM North America with F1 at New Jersey in 2014?

Okay, I'm kidding, but that was too good to resist.

(Honestly though, if DTM and SuperGT become more or less identical, I may stop paying particular attention to either one of them. This will be heightened further if they keep adding other cars that I can see in other series elsewhere.)

Where have you been? This has been ongoing since 2009.

They will have differences. Just a baseline common chassis and some standardized parts. SuperGT will still have their unique tire makes and probably different aero developments. Plus I don't see the Mercedes CLK, Audi RS5, BMW M3, Honda NSX, Lexus and Nissan who knows what racing anywhere else in a Worldwide known series.

HORNDAWG · 16 Mar 2013, 05:19 (Ref:3219194)

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Originally Posted by HJJ

Sooner rather than later.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ing-agreement/

I think it is a very good sign for #thefuture.

L.P.

Purist · 16 Mar 2013, 05:22 (Ref:3219195)

I'm more concerned with having the exact same six cars in both GT500 and DTM. Also, GT3s have been working their way more and more into GT300, which reduces how much that class stands out as well.

HORNDAWG · 16 Mar 2013, 05:39 (Ref:3219198)

As GT300 nor DTM are in the USCR, why don't you all take them to the appropriate threads.

L.P.

MagVanisher · 16 Mar 2013, 06:56 (Ref:3219234)

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Originally Posted by Purist

So, DTM North America with F1 at New Jersey in 2014?

Okay, I'm kidding, but that was too good to resist.

(Honestly though, if DTM and SuperGT become more or less identical, I may stop paying particular attention to either one of them. This will be heightened further if they keep adding other cars that I can see in other series elsewhere.)

If would be great if USCR bought Trans-Am too... Still, I'm glad that they finally tie-up with ACO and Le Mans!

Maelochs · 16 Mar 2013, 10:24 (Ref:3219340)

The "tie-up" would seem to be simply that GTE will be preserved (otherwise the manufacturers would have flipped out) and likely Used-Car is paying for the use of the "Le Mans" name---mostly marketing, in other words.

From what was said at There Veal, it seems P2 will be slowed, which is pretty much what Scot and Scott said at Winter Test----DP-like restrictions on modifications, prescribed power limits and power and torque curves, etc.

I don't have the exact wording but Scott A said something like they'd try to keep P2s from being so different from FIA/ACO LMP2 that teams could easily change back for Le Mans.

IndyDonut · 16 Mar 2013, 20:27 (Ref:3219572)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

The "tie-up" would seem to be simply that GTE will be preserved (otherwise the manufacturers would have flipped out) and likely Used-Car is paying for the use of the "Le Mans" name---mostly marketing, in other words.

From what was said at There Veal, it seems P2 will be slowed, which is pretty much what Scot and Scott said at Winter Test----DP-like restrictions on modifications, prescribed power limits and power and torque curves, etc.

I don't have the exact wording but Scott A said something like they'd try to keep P2s from being so different from FIA/ACO LMP2 that teams could easily change back for Le Mans.

So, the opposite of what race fans want. I was rather hoping they wouldn't NASCARify endurance racing.

Simmi · 16 Mar 2013, 22:09 (Ref:3219627)

Very interesting fact from Scott Atherton on the Sebring broadcast. Not sure if it's been mentioned before but when they pooled the ALMS and GA online mailing lists together there was only a 10% cross-over of fans.

Jonerz · 16 Mar 2013, 22:21 (Ref:3219633)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

From what was said at There Veal, it seems P2 will be slowed, which is pretty much what Scot and Scott said at Winter Test----DP-like restrictions on modifications, prescribed power limits and power and torque curves, etc.

Elkins has said time and again that DP will be sped up to help balance with P2. He has said just that, a lot. DP will be sped up, primarily through an increase in downforce, they will likely need better breaks, but the performance baseline will be LMP2 speeds. Will P2-derived cars move away from strict ACO regulations? Perhaps. But the baseline of performance will be P2. This has been unequivocally stated by Elkins and Richard Buck.

Chris

HORNDAWG · 16 Mar 2013, 23:02 (Ref:3219679)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

The "tie-up" would seem to be simply that GTE will be preserved (otherwise the manufacturers would have flipped out) and likely Used-Car is paying for the use of the "Le Mans" name---mostly marketing, in other words.

From what was said at There Veal, it seems P2 will be slowed, which is pretty much what Scot and Scott said at Winter Test----DP-like restrictions on modifications, prescribed power limits and power and torque curves, etc.

I don't have the exact wording but Scott A said something like they'd try to keep P2s from being so different from FIA/ACO LMP2 that teams could easily change back for Le Mans.

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Originally Posted by IndyDonut

So, the opposite of what race fans want. I was rather hoping they wouldn't NASCARify endurance racing.

Nothing like reaching for the extremes!

It could be as simple as being on spec tires.

L.P.

**joeb** · 16 Mar 2013, 23:21 (Ref:3219683)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Nothing like reaching for the extremes!

It could be as simple as being on spec tires.

L.P.

The DP Continental tires have increased the PC speeds by a second or two, so that throws a bit of difficulty into the dp P2 balance. PC's can't be slowed down or they will be a bigger pain to the GTE class, this makes speeding up DP's even more necessary. P2 tires may be faster than the DP Continentals but that isn't going to be the only fix. I don't have the answer but I hope the new management will be using lots of track tests to figure this balance out. Road America will be very interesting this year.....

Purist · 16 Mar 2013, 23:30 (Ref:3219687)

Simmi, that tidbit is VERY interesting. It's not entirely surprising, but still, it is an important observation.

**skycafe** · 17 Mar 2013, 00:46 (Ref:3219720)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Very interesting fact from Scott Atherton on the Sebring broadcast. Not sure if it's been mentioned before but when they pooled the ALMS and GA online mailing lists together there was only a 10% cross-over of fans.

That is scary. GA always said they were looking for a different type of fan.

The Badger · 17 Mar 2013, 01:14 (Ref:3219728)

Hindy , suggesting that the way forward is to bring the DP's up to P2 speed levels = I agree !!!

TF110 · 17 Mar 2013, 01:55 (Ref:3219747)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

As GT300 nor DTM are in the USCR, why don't you all take them to the appropriate threads.

L.P.

The story is related to the USCR, and that's the title of this thread.

JoeMaters · 17 Mar 2013, 03:09 (Ref:3219797)

Breakaway US sportscar series rumoured with LMP1 as lead class - Sebring paddock sources have confirmed potential rival 2014 series to USCR - Graham Goodwin

Fogelhund · 17 Mar 2013, 03:12 (Ref:3219799)

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Originally Posted by JoeMaters

Breakaway US sportscar series rumoured with LMP1 as lead class - Sebring paddock sources have confirmed potential rival 2014 series to USCR - Graham Goodwin

United for... a couple of days.

MagVanisher · 17 Mar 2013, 03:14 (Ref:3219803)

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Originally Posted by JoeMaters

Breakaway US sportscar series rumoured with LMP1 as lead class - Sebring paddock sources have confirmed potential rival 2014 series to USCR - Graham Goodwin

Oh no, another breakaway... Is SCCA supporting it this time?

HORNDAWG · 17 Mar 2013, 03:22 (Ref:3219807)

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Originally Posted by TF110

The story is related to the USCR, and that's the title of this thread.

Related as in they talked to GA in 2009, is not related to USCR or this thread.

L.P.

Fogelhund · 17 Mar 2013, 03:30 (Ref:3219813)

Marcel ten Caat ‏@dsceuroeditor
So after #TheFuture and #TheReveal are we going to get #TheSplit then?

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