2014 ADAC GT Masters

[JoestForEver]

Aren't they follow the same BoP as Blancpain series(i.e. The official FIA one)?

[Subaru_WRX_STi]

No of course no. The ADAC is using their own Balance of Performance. Last year the Alpina B6 was strongly penalized, this year it was the case of the R8 LMS ultra.

[JoestForEver]

Originally Posted by Subaru_WRX_STi

No of course no. The ADAC is using their own Balance of Performance. Last year the Alpina B6 was strongly penalized, this year it was the case of the R8 LMS ultra.

Nope, ADAC GT Masters BoP
and FIA BoP are exactly the same.

[IndyMeister]

Nothing new on the official website. This is what we know:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AD...Masters_season

[IndyMeister]

Slow but steady... here are some more entries for 2014:
http://www.sportscar-info.de/portal/...rterliste-2014

[Rodger Davies]

Originally Posted by JoestForEver

Aren't they follow the same BoP as Blancpain series(i.e. The official FIA one)?

Yeah, but the Audis got well and truly stuffed everywhere last year - they had absolutely no chance at Spa. Hard to be sympathetic after years of them crying 'wolf', but was probably the harshest I've seen BoP hit since GT3 began.

[carbon_titanium]

In my opinion the 2013 R8 LMS ultra strenght had to be the great aero package. Unfortunately FIA didn't homologate the giant rear diffuser, so the car ran with less and unbalanced downforce (because of the missing giant diffuser) than expected and with too much drag given by the giant rear wing + the lack of power because of restrictors size.

[Rodger Davies]

Good point. I never really understood GT3 manufacturers striving for more down force; seems a little counterproductive to have a car that produces too much downforce when that inevitably means it will be a pig in a straight line.

Unfortunately.

[IndyMeister]

Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Good point. I never really understood GT3 manufacturers striving for more down force; seems a little counterproductive to have a car that produces too much downforce when that inevitably means it will be a pig in a straight line.

Unfortunately.

Good point: Hans Reiter said last year that his experience is like this:
high down force = fast PROs; low down force = fast amateurs

Thinking about the way Audi designed the 2013 package it might tell a lot about their strategy

But for the non SUPER professional teams the BoP was the nail in the coffin for 2013.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by IndyMeister

Good point: Hans Reiter said last year that his experience is like this:
high down force = fast PROs; low down force = fast amateurs

Thinking about the way Audi designed the 2013 package it might tell a lot about their strategy

But for the non SUPER professional teams the BoP was the nail in the coffin for 2013.

OT, but: I think that's also why TUSCC insisted on the Crawford rear wings... equalizing high-DF cars with low-DF cars is a real problem. They thought they'd get around that by making all cars low-DF, unfortunately it didn't quite work out that way, but the basic thinking behind it is logical.

[carbon_titanium]

Originally Posted by IndyMeister

Thinking about the way Audi designed the 2013 package it might tell a lot about their strategy

Yes, and given by the fact that 2014 GT3 models can't receive big updates because of freezing development, I don't know how much the R8 could be more competitive than 2013 if FIA will keep on banning the original diffuser. Audi sport surely will "kindly" ask to SRO a favourable bop for this season, something like 1275-1290kg and 2x50mm (last year restrictors for almost all the season was 2x44mm)

[IndyMeister]

Straight from the PR:
2x Schubert BMW for GT Masters BUT drivers will be announced on 8 April

[IndyMeister]

Abt Racing is fielding 3 cars again: http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/ad...ahreraufgebot/

Pairings are:
Thomas Schöffler/Winkelhock
Fabian Hamprecht/Thiim
Kevin van der Linde/Rast.

[IndyMeister]

Rahel Frey and Philip Geipel for Yako-Audi:
http://twitpic.com/dzwtdr

[IndyMeister]

Callaway Competition has announced their line-ups for 2014:
http://www.daniel-keilwitz.de/?p=137

Oliver Gavin will share a cockpit with champion Daniel Keilwitz (part time, only).

[carbon_titanium]

I still can't understand why ADAC GT adopted an entry list cap while teams like callaway, abt or farnbacher are still allowed to sign with 3 or more cars... 2012 season was fantastic! limitless entry list and around 40 cars at each race

[Racing Harz]

Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

I still can't understand why ADAC GT adopted an entry list cap while teams like callaway, abt or farnbacher are still allowed to sign with 3 or more cars... 2012 season was fantastic! limitless entry list and around 40 cars at each race

Because the ADAC wants simplicity with the BoP

[carbon_titanium]

Originally Posted by Racing Harz

Because the ADAC wants simplicity with the BoP

what does it mean this? there are less teams in grid but there is always a great gt3 variety

[kurski]

Heinz-Harald Frentzen will drive Mercedes AMG - HTP Motorsport race car in this years ADAC GT Masters.

[Racing Harz]

His Co-Driver will be Luca Stolz.

Tomorrow comes the Entry List

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by Racing Harz

His Co-Driver will be Luca Stolz.

Tomorrow comes the Entry List

Well, here it is.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Well, here it is.

This is a silly question, but are those numbers in the first column the car number or just a list of who is there?

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by joeb

This is a silly question, but are those numbers in the first column the car number or just a list of who is there?

There's no #15, so it should be car numbers.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

There's no #15, so it should be car numbers.

Thanks. Is it a rule for this series to use consecutive car numbers?

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by joeb

Thanks. Is it a rule for this series to use consecutive car numbers?

No, not really. But it's a German series and Germans tend to not get overly creative with such things... Also back when there was a GTC-like secondary class for Porsche Cup (and in theory Ferrari Challenge) cars, those were mandated to have numbers above 40, so all the GT3s would have something lower.