WEC Race 2014 FIA WEC - Round 1 - Silverstone - Page 2

Mal · 3 Apr 2014, 16:23 (Ref:3388339)

I think Toyota's last 2 years have been leading up to this year and training for this year so I think they will be very strong. People say the programme is on a small budget.... but you don't hire that driver squad unless you mean business. I also think Toyota's hybrid is far more developed than the others.

maximus · 3 Apr 2014, 19:27 (Ref:3388403)

Which numpty scheduled the BTCC at Donington to be on the same day as this!?

GT6 · 3 Apr 2014, 19:37 (Ref:3388409)

Easter weekend is a very popular time for events,

TF110 · 3 Apr 2014, 19:59 (Ref:3388420)

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Originally Posted by Beetle

Interesting tidbit from S365 here.. http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/g...pecs-revealed/

890kg, 44.4mm restrictors, 83L of fuel

Thats quite a bit of relative performance help for them aside the weight! Anyone have a comparison of their restrictor and fuel tank size from 2013?

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Originally Posted by Mal

I think Toyota's last 2 years have been leading up to this year and training for this year so I think they will be very strong. People say the programme is on a small budget.... but you don't hire that driver squad unless you mean business. I also think Toyota's hybrid is far more developed than the others.

One thing thats certain is they are running their hybrid system how they intended- 4wd. Another thing is that 18,000+km of testing.

carbon_titanium · 3 Apr 2014, 20:10 (Ref:3388427)

890kg and 1x44mm was the bop that lola-rebellion received in ALMS, for WEC the car was 900kg with the same restrictor size. Fuel tank of last year was 81L after the pre le mans bop (when ts040 and other petrol lmp1 received 3L extra). Is a strange decision, for 2011 ILMC season and for 2012 ALMS/WEC 12H of sebring, grandfathered cars received a more restricrive bop, ACO is pushing rebellion against work lmp1 that should be a bit slower compared to last year.
In my opinion the funny side of the story is that surely the new R-one won't never be as fast as the old lola-rebellion with this bop!

Victor_RO · 3 Apr 2014, 20:13 (Ref:3388429)

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Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

890kg and 1x44mm was the bop that lola-rebellion received in ALMS, for WEC the car was 900kg with the same restrictor size. Fuel tank of last year was 81L after the pre le mans bop (when ts040 and other petrol lmp1 received 3L extra). Is a strange decision, for 2011 ILMC season and for 2012 ALMS/WEC 12H of sebring, grandfathered cars received a more restricrive bop, ACO is pushing rebellion against work lmp1 that should be a bit slower compared to last year.

Well... we actually saw from the Ricard test that the factory cars should actually be faster than last year (even with the fuel restrictions), and from what we've heard they're also going to go quite a bit longer on fuel, so the BoP for the old Lola makes sense when looking at it from that view.

carbon_titanium · 3 Apr 2014, 20:16 (Ref:3388430)

Actually is hard to predict if 2014 lmp1 will be faster than 2013 lmp1. In my opinion laptimes will close to 2012, but is just a speculation of mine. 15 days to the truth

Victor_RO · 3 Apr 2014, 20:20 (Ref:3388435)

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Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

Actually is hard to predict if 2014 lmp1 will be faster than 2013 lmp1. In my opinion laptimes will close to 2012, but is just a speculation of mine. 15 days to the truth

At the Ricard test, on the same track configuration that they used in 2010 for the LMS 8-hour race, they lapped close to the laptimes of the 2010 factory LMP1 cars (which, let's not forget, hold the race fastest lap and 24h distance record at Le Mans).

carbon_titanium · 3 Apr 2014, 20:31 (Ref:3388437)

Yeah I know that (the le mans record was given more by the fact that in 2010 there were few YFC and no rain, the 2013 R18 e-tron was able to smash that record but too much YFC and too much rain...) but last year during the silverstone race Lotterer marked a fastest lap faster than the 2010 1000km pole if memory helps me. In a track like silverstone 2013 lmp1 less powerfull but with a better aero were faster than more powerfurll but worse aero developed 2010 lmp1.
Silverstone is an high downforce track, 2014 lmp1 should have less downforce than 2013, this the reason why I think that 2014 lmp1 will run close to 2012 timelaps.

TF110 · 3 Apr 2014, 20:50 (Ref:3388443)

They weigh 45kg less, have near the same power and probably near the same downforce. The tires may limit them a bit. I think the times will be 1:43's at Silverstone maybe faster.

vincegail · 4 Apr 2014, 12:59 (Ref:3388670)

Not so sure about the downforce. Cars are less wide, so less surface to create downforce with. I know the aero-wizards keep finding more downforce, but this is something they can't get around.

Maelochs · 4 Apr 2014, 13:26 (Ref:3388681)

More downforce is easy---the penalty is drag. Since the cars have less drag (narrower, smaller tires) it si possible that designers could add some downforce while keeping the same drag/downforce ratio.

blankfile · 4 Apr 2014, 17:57 (Ref:3388758)

Heh still nobody voted lotus

will they be the suprise

Beetle · 4 Apr 2014, 19:36 (Ref:3388778)

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Heh still nobody voted lotus

will they be the suprise

As GT6 said, I just hope they show up.

TheDude · 4 Apr 2014, 19:43 (Ref:3388780)

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Originally Posted by Beetle

As GT6 said, I just hope they show up.

I believe they just confirmed their driver line up

Christijan Albers, James Rossiter and Thomas Holzer (According to Endurance.Info)

Beetle · 4 Apr 2014, 19:51 (Ref:3388782)

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I believe they just confirmed their driver line up

Christijan Albers, James Rossiter and Thomas Holzer (According to Endurance.Info)

Damn, you've beat me to it!

http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/sil...ue-lotus-t129/

Rossiter, Holzer, Albers for Silverstone. Although it still doesn't seem clear that they'll actually show at Silverstone.

Beetle · 4 Apr 2014, 19:52 (Ref:3388785)

Ok, the FRC Predictions Competition for WEC Silverstone is now open for business!

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141217

I highly encourage everyone to join in!

Beetle · 5 Apr 2014, 03:16 (Ref:3388866)

http://www.fiawec.com/wpphpFichiers/...ist_040414.pdf

Official entry list is OUT, ladies and gents!

TF110 · 5 Apr 2014, 03:46 (Ref:3388873)

Yes! Lotus on the list in LMP1. GTE looks the same as last year but quality is good. I cant wait until unified GT regs are here.

Starfish Primer · 5 Apr 2014, 08:56 (Ref:3388942)

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Originally Posted by Beetle

http://www.fiawec.com/wpphpFichiers/...ist_040414.pdf

Official entry list is OUT, ladies and gents!

More P1 than P2!

**PascaLM** · 5 Apr 2014, 10:08 (Ref:3388953)

Toyota will crush Audi and Porsche, because their MegaJoules are better.

GT6 · 5 Apr 2014, 11:29 (Ref:3388968)

Megajoules sounds like a french super hero

**PascaLM** · 5 Apr 2014, 11:34 (Ref:3388969)

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Megajoules sounds like a french super hero

No, the only French super hero is Superdupont :

Now, let's go back to WEC.

Beetle · 5 Apr 2014, 16:09 (Ref:3389030)

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Originally Posted by GT6

Megajoules sounds like a french super hero

Lol!! Nice one, Simon.

In fairness, I think it will be a really close fight in LMP1. I suspect less than three seconds will separate the entire LMP1 pack (with the possible exception of Lotus) at the end of lap 1.

Lagunaseca_4life · 5 Apr 2014, 21:32 (Ref:3389091)

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Lol!! Nice one, Simon.

In fairness, I think it will be a really close fight in LMP1. I suspect less than three seconds will separate the entire LMP1 pack (with the possible exception of Lotus) at the end of lap 1.

I sure hope so, and for heavens sake I hope the tv coverage doesn't focus on the pit crew!

View Poll Results: Who's going to win it?
Lotus	3	2.27%
Rebellion	3	2.27%
Porsche	23	17.42%
Audi	59	44.70%
Toyota	44	33.33%
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