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View Poll Results: How long will MS go before having a mechanical failure in a race?
He will retire before having another one 12 35.29%
2006 1 2.94%
2005 2 5.88%
2004 8 23.53%
US or Japanese GP 5 14.71%
Italian GP 6 17.65%
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 08:02 (Ref:709896)   #1
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Michael Schumacher and race finishes

How long can Michael Schumacher go in GP's without failing to finish because his car has a mechanical failure?

I think the last time this happened was Germany 2001.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 08:24 (Ref:709907)   #2
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I'm an optimist so i say at the Italian GP.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 08:29 (Ref:709909)   #3
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Is it my imagination or are F1 cars more reliable than they used to be? Michael isn't the only driver without a retirement due to mechanical failure in a race in 2003. Ralf hasn't had any either...
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 08:35 (Ref:709915)   #4
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Fingers crossed for the Italian GP!
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 08:36 (Ref:709916)   #5
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I'd say that his damaged sidepod at Höckenheim was a mechanical failure...
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 08:47 (Ref:709922)   #6
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I'd say that his damaged sidepod at Höckenheim was a mechanical failure...
That's right, but he didn't retire then.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 09:07 (Ref:709937)   #7
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Yes, he did.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 09:26 (Ref:709947)   #8
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He did! But I would call that more accidental damage than mechanical failure ASCII.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 09:43 (Ref:709954)   #9
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An engine failure on the warm up lap of the Italian GP, please.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 10:17 (Ref:709974)   #10
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Remember 1996, when there were no Ferraris on lap 6... OK, who can come up with this stat: Schumacher vs Barrichello mechanical failures since 2000! Will be interesting...
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 10:24 (Ref:709981)   #11
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It would! I'm sure someone here has the info!

Oh, and I do hope that if Monty or Kimi beat Schuey this year that they do it by beating him on the track. I don't really want any of them retiring - I want a good fight to the finish, and that includes Michael. Do see your point, though I also reckon xdt is right about cars generally being more reliable now anyway.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 10:57 (Ref:709997)   #12
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Rubens - Schumi is 6-0 on mechanical failures.
But that's just from 2002-2003, can't seem to find accurate stats from 2001-2000...

I'm not going to pay for stats...

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Old 6 Sep 2003, 11:03 (Ref:710001)   #13
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2000: Rubens broke down at Silverstone, Brazil, ran out of fuel at Belgium. Michael broke down at Monaco and France.

2001: Michael broke down at Imola and Hockenheim. Rubens car broke at Spain, the TC failed at Canada, and he retired at Indianapolis. That's just off the top of my head so I'm sure I've missed some.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 11:06 (Ref:710002)   #14
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Was it TC failing at Canada? I thought it was due to hitting the wall after taking avasive action to JPM's car in the barrier?
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Yes, but it had failed earlier in the race exiting the harpin and didn't come back. So that's a failure.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 12:19 (Ref:710036)   #16
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Monza 2003(hopefully)
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 12:54 (Ref:710061)   #17
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sometime in 2006
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 12:59 (Ref:710066)   #18
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It would! I'm sure someone here has the info!

Oh, and I do hope that if Monty or Kimi beat Schuey this year that they do it by beating him on the track. I don't really want any of them retiring - I want a good fight to the finish, and that includes Michael. Do see your point, though I also reckon xdt is right about cars generally being more reliable now anyway.
At elast if Michael did have a failure while leading, ti would level things up after Kimi at the Nurburgring and Montoya in Austria, both of which caused Michael to gain points in addition to the 10 lost by his rivals. Formula 1 needs his luck to run out.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 14:09 (Ref:710112)   #19
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I wouldn't have called Hockenheim that lucky for him.....
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Yes, MS's last mechanical retirement is Germany 2001.

Since then Rubens has retired:

- USA 2001, engine
- Malaysia 2002, engine
- Brazil 2002, hydraulics
- Spain 2002, gearbox
- France 2002, ignition
- Brazil 2003, out of fuel
- Hungary 2003, suspension

and 3 times because of a crash (Oz 2002&2003, Germany 2003)

What a difference.


But I predict he will retire due to mechanical problem in 2004. This will happen in some race he is not fighting for the win, even for the podium...

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Old 6 Sep 2003, 19:23 (Ref:710279)   #21
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when was the monaco, exhaust...suspension incident??
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 19:29 (Ref:710287)   #22
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when was the monaco, exhaust...suspension incident??
2000. Coulthard went on to take the win.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 20:10 (Ref:710313)   #23
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Would the tyre failure at Hockenheim this year be worth considering as a mechanical failure?
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 20:14 (Ref:710316)   #24
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Fingers crossed for the Italian GP!

Agh, you've jinxed it! It won't happen now!

Seriously, MS will DNF when you least expect him too. Like Brazil this year in the rain for example.
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Old 6 Sep 2003, 20:15 (Ref:710319)   #25
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Thats what I was thinking but then again its a tyre supplier failure not strictly anything to do with Ferrari...directly. Sort of. I think.
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