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’10 ALMS Round 4 • Utah • July 7th – 11th
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. . . Schedule . Entry List . Track Map or Map 2 . Timing & Scoring . RLM . IMSA Site . Spotters Guide or Guide 2 . Live SpeedTV rounds "Q"ing Stream . Ten-Tenths Chat . Satellite Upper left of map, select aerial view . Weather . World Times Qualifying Saturday July 10th, 2:55pm/14:55 local MDST ( GMT -6 ) L.P. Last edited by jhansen; 9 Jul 2010 at 21:44. |
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Might be reading far to much into it, but the entry list has the Highcroft car listed as a "Honda Performance Development" rather than "HPD"
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1 Jul 2010, 22:12 (Ref:2720974) | #3 | ||
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2 Jul 2010, 03:28 (Ref:2720985) | #4 | |
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Nice work. Thanks again Horndawg. Miller is not on my list this year, but I am looking forward to some bratwurst in August.
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5 Jul 2010, 19:09 (Ref:2722308) | #5 | ||
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Looks to be mildly hot and stormy in the Great Basin for the Utah Grand Prix.
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5 Jul 2010, 21:54 (Ref:2722376) | #6 | ||
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storms? like sand storms?
thanks again, HORNDAWG. i was beginning to have sportscar withdrawals...looking forward to it. |
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looking for Fisico and Vilander at Risi Comp !
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It will be interesting to see if Intersport can keep up their string of early race leading performances. If Clint started the last race I wonder if it will be Jon's turn again, although we found out at Laguna that Clint can swing that car around at the start too. The AER has the power for sure, but I would like to see them actually last more than a stint this year.
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At least for the first stint, I expect it to be a Dyson/Intersport show, for one simple reason: turbos at high altitude.
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7 Jul 2010, 00:08 (Ref:2722840) | #11 | |
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Miller has one medium long straight and the rest of the track is "follow the leader", even if the leader is a crippled GT2. There is almost no way to get by anyone unless it is on the straight.
You need downforce in qualifying to get thru the low speed turns (more than 3/4s of the total lap time) but speed down the straight in the race. Intersport showed in last year's race that a flat wing will allow them to get past faster lap time cars on the straight and then hold up the faster cars through the turns. At least until the rear tires go off from the lack of downforce. Cute for a few laps, but hardly a winning strategy. Add in the probability of John pulling another attempt to pass by punting off a potential winner as he did last year at PLM and you get some exciting TV. Kinda like WWF, if you enjoy that kind of thing. I think it will come down to fuel and pit strategy. It is very difficult to build up a one lap lead at that track by racing and you know there will be yellows, so I think it will be the strategy guys that win or loose this one. I just hope RISI or Flying Lizards can hold of the Vettes and Bimmers. |
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7 Jul 2010, 01:56 (Ref:2722852) | #12 | ||
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Sorry, but the front straight at MMP is about 3700 ft long-that's as long as the front straight at Pocono, and longer than the back straights at Daytona and Talledega. The only tracks that have straights as long as or longer are Le Mans(Sarthe/24 Hour circuit), the Nurbergring Nordschilfe/24 Hour circuit, Paul Ricard, and Road Atlanta(thought I don't consider it a full-on straight with all the flatout kinks in it).
Granted, it has that motorcycle/club track feel, but maybe the late Larry Miller-a amature racer in his own right I believe-asked Allan Wilson to make it that way. Also, bikes are more popular in that region of the US than road racing, though it seems to be catching on. An Audi R15 might be at home at MMP, but since Audi doesn't plan on doing more races until Silverstone, we're out of luck there. However, because of that straight and the medium speed corners, expect a power vs agility showdown like when the Audi R10s raced there. |
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Spotter Guide is now online, complete with markings to tell the two Risi cars apart and the late omission of the #36 Genoa LMPC car.
Download at www.spotterguides.com or later in the week at the official ALMS website. Thanks for everyone who has downloaded the guides during the year. Very much appreciated Last edited by andy_b; 7 Jul 2010 at 05:52. |
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7 Jul 2010, 11:31 (Ref:2722997) | #15 | ||
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thank YOU, Andy! you always make enjoying the races easier and more pleasurable.
i am hoping to see a trimmed out Intersport go like Stig on the first stint as well. just wish the little team can get the Lola and the twice juiced AER to last. |
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Per Mariantic Drayson is out with an injury and is being replaced by Pirro. That alone should make the Drayson Lola a car to watch and possibly be a threat to win, if Cocker can keep a decent pace.
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Surprisingly prompt confirmation on Autosport: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85048
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that certainly changes the LMP race a bit doesn't it? I am not worried about pace out of Johhny, but I am more worried about some mechanical problem with the car. That seems to have hampered them in races so far this year.
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Guide will be updated with Pirro helment, but it probably wont be until tomorrow.
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Sorry for his lordship, but I am sure he would take the consalation prize of being a winning owner - which based on previous form has to be a serious possibility.
Intersport will make the first half great fun but they have a 3 way fight - driver, tyres, engine (which one will go bang first) After the last effort, ALMS has set a tough benchmark for themselves but a 5 horse race is definately on the cards (and a shorter race will perhaps not allow Highcroft's reliability/experience/pit-stoppery to play such a role). Speed are showing this live, so maybe dubious methods of NASCAR watching might help (with RLM audio of course)... |
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Just for the record, the back straight at Sebring at 3800 ft is longer than Miller and the straight at Road America is also longer than Miller. And maybe the turns at Miller can be considered medium speed, but because they are so close together there is very little passing, even between cars in different classes.
And I will bet on the tires going off just like last year. The real question is "how many laps and seconds can the Intersport hold up the cars he passes on the first 2 or 3 laps and will this let a leader gain an insurmountable lead?" |
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I like the odds for the Drayson car now as well. Course, like as has been mentioned here, they have had their share of mechanical issues lately. We shall see.
We're lucky enough to be able to fly down and watch the race with our son and family this weekend. I'm really looking for forward to it. I will share any tidbits I manage to pick up while there. Cheers! |
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In the LMS, Rebellion's cars have had similar issues with mechanical problems. Is it the Lola chassis(not always suited to the rough and bumpy tracks of the US and Le Mans) or is the Judd V10 too long in the tooth and teams are sacrifcing durability for power and speed(like Peugeot at Le Mans)?
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356, the Ullman Straight at Sebring is 0.595 of a mile, which translates to 3,142ft; remember, Sebring's start/finish straight is only 2,000ft if you want to visually compare.
The track layout at Miller is actually pretty open up until that first hairpin turn (Turn 5); Turn 1 is in 3rd for LMPs, and Turns 2-4 are taken in 4th and 5th gears. The perimeter course, which is what the ALMS now uses, has 14 corners basically. The trouble with the rest of the lap is that the "straights" from Turns 6-8, 10-11, and 11-12 aren't that long, and that none of those remaining turns, apart from the flat-out, right-hander at Turn 7, are particularly fast. If it were me, I would loosen up "the Attitudes" as they're called (the turn 8-10 esse) and the following corner, with a straight a little further out between them. As for the full course, I would make the changes just stated, and change those two bends at the end of the infield straight to create one long curve that gets more of the turning done a bit sooner. This would be better for the racing and for overtaking into what is currently Turn 13 (the left-hander) on the full course. |
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