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Old 14 May 2001, 08:48 (Ref:92197)   #1
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Who's the best starter in the field??

Who's the best starter in the field?? If there was a championship for the best starter, than I think this would be the ranking:

1. Jos Verstappen
2. Juan Pablo Montoya
3. Ralph Schumacher

What do you think??

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Old 14 May 2001, 15:41 (Ref:92338)   #2
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The BMW techy who came up with Williams' launch control system.
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Old 14 May 2001, 16:01 (Ref:92344)   #3
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those who can use their system without stalling it.
but seriously, i'd say villeneuve. he's off like a ferret out of a sack a lot of the time...
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Old 14 May 2001, 16:04 (Ref:92347)   #4
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This race it has to be DC.

We are comparing to teammates here right?



(DC had a brilliant start nonetheless, right up the inside of Schumacher who started on pole while DC started uhm....7th right?)
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Old 14 May 2001, 16:08 (Ref:92348)   #5
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It wasn't that long ago that Villeneuve was the worst starter in the field! Remember 1996 and 1997? He was guaranteed to lose 2 places or more... I guess he learned...

And yes, the Williams launch control engineers.
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Old 14 May 2001, 16:25 (Ref:92356)   #6
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Without launch control, which takes away all the skill of the start, Alesi and Villeneuve are the ones to beat.
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Old 14 May 2001, 16:55 (Ref:92379)   #7
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Without launch control, which takes away all the skill of the start, Alesi and Villeneuve are the ones to beat.
Totally agree with you, MF. And at least Jacques' starting ability equals that of most launch controls, at least that of BAR (I don't know if he used it in Austria, but for sure he didn't in Spain).
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Old 14 May 2001, 17:11 (Ref:92400)   #8
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DC was fine off the line but really blew his first corner. He was alongside TGF but braked way to early and just let third place slip through his fingers.

We know know which zillion dolar teams are just wasting their money on booze, coke and go-go girls, but shouldn't they be a little ashamed to have some many cars left stranded and some really crippling off the line? If F1 proved anything last weekend it's that's still as non-professional as any hillclimber basically.
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Old 14 May 2001, 17:18 (Ref:92407)   #9
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I think it will be very hard to compare them.

Jos usually makes up a lot of places during the first round.
The Ralf and Montoya are often on one of the front rows. So they simply can not pass the same number of drivers during the first kilometer.
But nobody can tell what Jos would do if he were to start from one of the front rows. I would expect the competition to be a lot harder over there.


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Old 14 May 2001, 17:36 (Ref:92421)   #10
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Whoever can press the button first!! (and no I'm NOT talking about Jenson Don't you lot start on me again!)
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Old 14 May 2001, 18:19 (Ref:92453)   #11
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Well rumours are that several teams are using Verstappencontrol instead of launchcontrol next race
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Old 14 May 2001, 18:33 (Ref:92459)   #12
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Does this radical new electronic system also include a button labelled 'gravel trap excursion' perchance???

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Old 14 May 2001, 19:21 (Ref:92483)   #13
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Steve> Jos wasn't ecceptionaly quick out of the startingblocks. Bernoldi was ahead of him up to the first corner. Well, since you are comparing him to launchcontrol and all. It's not a matter of reflex, just a matter of getting around the chaos. Launchcontrol doesn't do that for you.
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Old 14 May 2001, 19:39 (Ref:92489)   #14
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Steve> Jos wasn't ecceptionaly quick out of the startingblocks. Bernoldi was ahead of him up to the first corner. Well, since you are comparing him to launchcontrol and all. It's not a matter of reflex, just a matter of getting around the chaos. Launchcontrol doesn't do that for you.
I think that is exactly what makes Jos (look like) a great starter.

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Old 14 May 2001, 21:02 (Ref:92528)   #15
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Nobody's perfect, you can't expect them to do amazingly every time and Villeneuve doesn't seem to be starting as brilliantly as he was last year.

F1 racing magazine last September said it could be because the engine had enough mid-range torque to run a lower 1st gear than most, putting them ahead of their mid-grid rivals. Or something like that, I didn't really get it.
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Old 14 May 2001, 22:06 (Ref:92570)   #16
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Jos said after the race:"funny how all the other drivers always seem to choose the wrong side of the track at the start"

And MF: Jos rarely makes those excursions anymore, when it does usualy something is wrong with the car(like the brakes in spain or the flat tyre in qualifying in austria, Jos also had a broken rear suspension in free practice)
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Old 15 May 2001, 00:47 (Ref:92612)   #17
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JV and Ralf Schumacher... Did you see Irv the swerve...what a start at Austria!
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Old 15 May 2001, 00:59 (Ref:92614)   #18
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Irv the swerve...the way he swerve and start was... brilliant...Rarely you see Eddie on such great inspired form...
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Old 15 May 2001, 02:29 (Ref:92631)   #19
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Whoever has the best launch-control, vision & lightest fuel-load. Oh and enough 'brain-fade' drivers ahead as the lights go out.
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Old 16 May 2001, 14:14 (Ref:93216)   #20
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Yes I think the williams cars are the besr starters, maybr it is the device, but they are both great drivers. Besides them I think JV knows when to launch his car too.
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Old 16 May 2001, 17:52 (Ref:93291)   #21
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And this years worst starter.... the envelope please... Mika Hakkinen.

With regards to Verstappen... Don't forget the guy was running with way less fuel in the car so he had better be able to pass people on the start.

Last year... Jacques was the best starter of the top 10. Always seemed to gain 3-4 places. Then hold up the field behind him.

With the intro of Launch control... I think that Jaguar (though I hate to admit it) have been the class of the field.

Also when discussing starts I think there should be some honorable mention given to Fischicella for making last seasons WDC interesting by punting off a certain sourkraut.
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