[Multi 21] Ricciardo vs Vettel 2014

[321Go]

Those comments by Alonso were made mid November last year if I'm not mistaken.

In other news, apparently Vettel's new chassis he is getting for Spain will not only be

[Adam43]

Forgot to copy the rest of the article? I wonder what it could

[Aysedasi]

I really have no

[mikuni]

I think the most important thing for us to understand about the Vettel and Ricciardo situation

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by mikuni

I think the most important thing for us to understand about the Vettel and Ricciardo situation

Yes, this is exactly what it is ! The only thing I'd add is

[Knowlesy]

Originally Posted by davyboy

Yes, this is exactly what it is ! The only thing I'd add is

Without solid evidence, I think you are treading dangerous legal ground accusing Vettel of abducting

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Without solid evidence, I think you are treading dangerous legal ground accusing Vettel of abducting

I like to live dangerously. You know I once got in a lot of trouble for

[Aysedasi]

posting off-

[stripedcat]

I think there has been some talk of the lack of rear downforce on the current Red Bull car(no blown diffuser) - and how Vettel isn't used to that. It's one of the things suggested for his current woes. Even though - it's still a bit too early to write Fingerman off yet. The Red Bull seems to have a decent chassis and good aero(Mr. Newey) - it's just the engine that is a bit too weak at the moment. I suspect that by the middle of the season it might be back up on top of the pile.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by stripedcat

I think there has been some talk of the lack of rear downforce on the current Red Bull car(no blown diffuser) - and how Vettel isn't used to that. It's one of the things suggested for his current woes. Even though - it's still a bit too early to write Fingerman off yet. The Red Bull seems to have a decent chassis and good aero(Mr. Newey) - it's just the engine that is a bit too weak at the moment. I suspect that by the middle of the season it might be back up on top of the pile.

Guess he prefers an understeering car?

[davyboy]

Seems Vettel's taken the 'forgotten how to drive' moniker seriously. He's out practicing with Tonykart today in Lonato.

[Tiny]

I for one will be laughing my ass of if Ricciardo is ending the season on higher Points then Vettel

[wnut]

Originally Posted by davyboy

Seems Vettel's taken the 'forgotten how to drive' moniker seriously. He's out practicing with Tonykart today in Lonato.

Wonder how long it will be before the FIA bans this form of testing as too expensive as well!

How dare Seb practice!
Does he think F1 is a sport?


Real racing drivers join bands!

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by wnut

Wonder how long it will be before the FIA bans this form of testing as too expensive as well!

How dare Seb practice!
Does he think F1 is a sport?


Real racing drivers join bands!

Agreed ! It's an outrage. Band ? He should be banned from all forms of motor sport forever. Off with his head !

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by Tiny

I for one will be laughing my ass of if Ricciardo is ending the season on higher Points then Vettel

Please be careful there, it'll be difficult to go to the bathroom without an ass... and if you don't relieve yourself you'll end up full of sh

It seems we're back again not finishing sente

[wnut]

Originally Posted by davyboy

Agreed ! It's an outrage. Band ? He should be banned from all forms of motor sport forever. Off with his head !

Band - Pop Group - Musical group.


I have managed to distinguish band from banned a while ago.

[Born Racer]

It's fair to say he's exceeded most of our expectations. I thought he'd be better than Webber was in his final days, though, but hadn't expected he'd have what is seemingly the upper hand at this point.

I get the sense that we'll see a Vettel resurgence though and wouldn't even count him out for the title if Hamilton and Rosberg "take points off each other".

[Catingaround]

It sounds like Red Bull found a fault with Vettel's RB10 that was swapped out this past weekend. When they measured the old chassis that was used for the first 4 races they found it to be warped. It is suspected that this produced unpredictable behavior when trail braking, causing Vettel to back up the corner, ruining corner exit speeds. It is also being blamed for excessive tire deg.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/f...m-8362176.html

[wnut]

Originally Posted by Catingaround

It sounds like Red Bull found a fault with Vettel's RB10 that was swapped out this past weekend. When they measured the old chassis that was used for the first 4 races they found it to be warped. It is suspected that this produced unpredictable behavior when trail braking, causing Vettel to back up the corner, ruining corner exit speeds. It is also being blamed for excessive tire deg.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/f...m-8362176.html

It always confuses how the teams have such advanced testing kit, and they don't seem to be able to pick up a cracked or warped chassis.

Sounds like an airfix kit stuck together by a 7 year old newby, not an advanced carbon fiber monocoque built by the best craftsmen in the world in a jig!

This has to stick out like a sore thumb on the testing and measuring rigs!

Any ideas?

[Catingaround]

I would imagine that the warping was slight, but Vettel did look much improved in Spain, especially under braking during those passes.

[Teretonga]

Originally Posted by wnut

It always confuses how the teams have such advanced testing kit, and they don't seem to be able to pick up a cracked or warped chassis.

Sounds like an airfix kit stuck together by a 7 year old newby, not an advanced carbon fiber monocoque built by the best craftsmen in the world in a jig!

This has to stick out like a sore thumb on the testing and measuring rigs!

Any ideas?

If he had done something that created a crack or problem and it wasn't picked up it could be a reasonably possible scenario , or if there had been an inherent fault in the manufacturing or curing process that went unnoticed it is possible because its is easy to assume that if it looks right, measures right, it must be right.

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by wnut

It always confuses how the teams have such advanced testing kit, and they don't seem to be able to pick up a cracked or warped chassis.

Sounds like an airfix kit stuck together by a 7 year old newby, not an advanced carbon fiber monocoque built by the best craftsmen in the world in a jig!

This has to stick out like a sore thumb on the testing and measuring rigs!

Any ideas?

You're right... it is very sloppy. I guess it may have slipped through the cracks [pardon the pun] with all the logisitcs issues of the fly aways. It's not the first time this kind of thing has happened at Red Bull or other teams though.

[Born Racer]

Just what could Ricciardo have done in the RBR last year? Super job by him versus a four-time champion.

[djinvicta]

Agreed. Love his commitment and cheery way he goes about things. Vettel must be smarting...

[Born Racer]

This is already better than Webber VS Vettel. The more this goes on, the more we have to think it might not be so temporary.