Audi LMP1 Discussion - Page 108

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 19:51 (Ref:3033200)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97739 confirms what RCE has been saying for a while. Audi is using the flywheel accumulator which was developed by Williams Hybrid Power and Porsche for the 911 GT3-R Hybrid.

BTW the full press release is available at http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...cle_7527.shtml

EverOne · 29 Feb 2012, 19:52 (Ref:3033202)

LOL Dr. Ullrich at the wheel and i missed this!
#1 livery is awful, #3 is awesome!

CTD · 29 Feb 2012, 19:55 (Ref:3033205)

Please take notice of the rear view mirrors

But nice cars, nice team, I'm hoping for the #2 Audi all year

Number7 · 29 Feb 2012, 19:59 (Ref:3033211)

#1 livery is awful, #3 is awesome![/QUOTE]

absolutely right

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 20:02 (Ref:3033214)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

The R18 Ultra (AKA TDI) does have the pushrod shrouds like the 2011 cars did, while the R18 E tron doesn't and seems to have a different nose box bodywork to cover the electric motors--could both cars have different suspension? After all, the release says that both cars share tubs and most of the other parts.

According to Audi Sport the R18 ultra and R18 e-tron quattro are "absolutely identical with the exception of the hybrid system.”

I would not look too hard on the livery pictures to determine the aero updates. Audi is obviously trying to keep these private for now.

FstrthnU · 29 Feb 2012, 20:03 (Ref:3033216)

Looking at the entries, looks like the 1st full-season car will be the E-tron Quattro, but the other will be the regular Ultra. Is the Ultra the regular R18 TDI with new bodywork?

Dead-Eye · 29 Feb 2012, 20:08 (Ref:3033218)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

But not at all speeds so the name suggests all-wheel drive that isn't there.

Non-permanent all-wheel drive is still all-wheel drive. At some point the Audi-bashing gets a bit silly.

wolfhound · 29 Feb 2012, 20:12 (Ref:3033220)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTD

Please take notice of the rear view mirrors

Looking at the picture on Autosport.com I doubte the drivers will see too much in those mirrors based on their height and the height of the windscreen.

Could there be an 'F'duct using that central rear wing mount?

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 20:18 (Ref:3033226)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

Non-permanent all-wheel drive is still all-wheel drive. At some point the Audi-bashing gets a bit silly.

Especially because this restriction is the direct consequence of the LMP1 technical rule book.

According the press release Audi will use the term "e-tron quattro" for road cars in which the front axle is driven by a conventional engine and the rear axle by electric motors. Peugeot is using the marketing term "Hybrid4" for that type of solution.

BTW I just noticed that (because of the 6% restrictor reduction) Audi has downgrade the "official" power output of the V6 TDI from 540 hp to 510 hp.

manthey · 29 Feb 2012, 20:18 (Ref:3033227)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

Here is a picture of the quattro drive train:

this picture shows fender holes

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 20:18 (Ref:3033228)

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfhound

Could there be an 'F'duct using that central rear wing mount?

No. That is forbidden in the LMP rules.

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 20:20 (Ref:3033229)

Quote:

Originally Posted by manthey

this picture shows fender holes

No, that picture shows the front fender louvers from last year. The rules mandate real holes in the front and rear fender.

TF110 · 29 Feb 2012, 20:22 (Ref:3033232)

HAH! "Official" power of 510hp? Do any of you agree? I think 550hp is closer to what's being made. How about torque?

KlBD · 29 Feb 2012, 20:24 (Ref:3033235)

Quote:

Originally Posted by EverOne

LOL Dr. Ullrich at the wheel and i missed this!
#1 livery is awful, #3 is awesome!

Too right! #1 looks like someone spilled a can of white paint and rulers all over it!

Very excited about their driver lineups though, great to see Rocky back for Le Mans and Marco having a go as well. And with Loic now joining the team, Audi has hired all 3 of the big time European factory drivers from Super GT (Andre, Ben, Loic)...a proud day for SGT as well!

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 20:28 (Ref:3033239)

The first real life picture on http://www.facebook.com/FourtitudeAu...02310433209748. The black in the livery nicely hides the shape of the fender holes

More pictures on http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...1949771&type=3.

Note the official "P1 HY" logo on the car. I never saw that on the Toyota TS030.

CTD · 29 Feb 2012, 20:28 (Ref:3033240)

Too me, it looks like they have been inspired by the 80's-90's Audi Sport Look:

So perhaps the #2, which traditionally is more or less yellow, will have a livery with inspiration by this?:

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 20:35 (Ref:3033243)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTD

Too me, it looks like they have been inspired by the 80's-90's Audi Sport Look.

Of course the whole point is to refer to the quattro history. Well done by the marketing people.

TF110 · 29 Feb 2012, 20:37 (Ref:3033245)

Perhaps the HY has to be on the car? KERS has the little sticker for safety reasons, maybe this or to show TV?

KlBD · 29 Feb 2012, 20:46 (Ref:3033250)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

Perhaps the HY has to be on the car? KERS has the little sticker for safety reasons, maybe this or to show TV?

The Hope Racing Oreca carried a HY designation inside it's numberplate last year as well...

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 21:19 (Ref:3033273)

According http://www.autohebdo.fr/endurance/we...-heures-de-spa Audi will enter 4 cars in Spa as rehearsal for Le Mans. Rocky will not be present because of a date clash with DTM. So two new boys (Bonanomi and Jarvis) are on their own.

Dead-Eye · 29 Feb 2012, 21:51 (Ref:3033289)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

Perhaps the HY has to be on the car? KERS has the little sticker for safety reasons, maybe this or to show TV?

Certainly looks like an official sticker, I'm sure we'll see one on the Toyota as well once we see it with the final set of stickers.

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 21:58 (Ref:3033292)

In Sebring Audi will enter three 2011 R18 TDIs. These are the liveries for that race: http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...cle_7529.shtml

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 22:10 (Ref:3033294)

The Audi press article stressed that they reduced the base weight of the car compared to last year. One example is the carbon fibre gearbox housing. According to http://www.lemans.org/en/news/audi-t...rted_6340.html they were able to reduce the weight 100 pounds.

The same reference has a quote from Kristensen:

Quote:

This new car is great right away. The feeling we have at the wheel is great with increased traction generated out of corners. After being the first manufacturer to win the 24 Hours of Le Mans with a diesel engine, Audi now has one goal, to be the first winners with a hybrid.

aneesh99 · 29 Feb 2012, 22:19 (Ref:3033302)

Should be interesting to see how the Audi and Toyota systems stack up against each other, here's to hoping Toyota drive the rear wheels just for arguments sake!

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 22:22 (Ref:3033304)

A video of the Audi R18 e-tron quattro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfYDwhDTLes I think that Audi already released pictures of this Paul Ricard last year. That test supposedly toke place on November 17th, 2011. See http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsnov11.html

I have the impression that the engine noise has changed at bit.

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