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Old 30 Nov 2004, 10:28 (Ref:1167869)   #1
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McLaren Testing MP4-1???

On f1-live.com in the time sheets for testing in Barcelona it is stated that McLaren is testing MP4-17???
I can't find any confirmation on this.
Does anybody know anything about this?
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Old 30 Nov 2004, 10:50 (Ref:1167896)   #2
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It's a mistake.
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Old 1 Dec 2004, 00:54 (Ref:1168518)   #3
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Yes the MP4-17 is definitely a mistake.
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Old 1 Dec 2004, 17:41 (Ref:1169159)   #4
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As long as it isn't MP4-1 as the title suggests!
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Old 1 Dec 2004, 18:45 (Ref:1169222)   #5
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There never was an MP4/1.

MP4 - 81 car
MP4B - 82 car
MP4/1C - 83 car (Cosworth)
MP4/1E - 83 Car (Tag)
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Old 1 Dec 2004, 18:54 (Ref:1169226)   #6
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I always thought MP4 was basically the MP4-1?
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Old 1 Dec 2004, 19:16 (Ref:1169243)   #7
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I always thought MP4 was basically the MP4-1?
It was never called that in 1981 or 1982.
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Old 1 Dec 2004, 19:23 (Ref:1169247)   #8
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Yeah I know that, but that is basically what it is!

The first MP4.

Forget the name.......yeah, OK I'm wrong, I'll go quietly.
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Old 2 Dec 2004, 14:57 (Ref:1169903)   #9
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There never was an MP4/1.

MP4/1C - 83 car (Cosworth)
MP4/1E - 83 Car (Tag)
Aren't you contradicting yourself here Esor?

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Old 2 Dec 2004, 17:17 (Ref:1169994)   #10
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I'm not sure, but I was under the impression that the tyre companies sometimes test with older F1 cars? Maybe not MP4/1 but with two or three year old models?
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This years car, if I remember right, is MP4-20.
Not MP5 or MP9. though
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Aren't you contradicting yourself here Esor?
NO!

There never was an MP4/1 (with no letter after it).

MP4/1C raced with a Cosworth engine in 83.
MP4/1E raced later in 83 with a Tag engine. I guess there was a MP4/1D (maybe first test car with Tag engine?).
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Old 5 Dec 2004, 19:53 (Ref:1171592)   #13
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MP4 was the car introduced in 81 and raced in 82.
The MP4/1C was the evolution raced in 83. Obviously at that point Ron D. decided there had to be a change in the designation/nomenclature at that point hence the MP4/1C designation. The designation 1C was probably on the basis that the 82 car would have been MP4/1B had that nomenclature been in place.

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