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Old 26 Jun 2014, 18:50 (Ref:3426883)   #5051
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Well there was that P1 Courage run by Tokai University few years back so similar(-ish) level projects have happened in recent years.

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Old 26 Jun 2014, 19:52 (Ref:3426903)   #5052
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If only these people with fancy websites and renderings knew what it actually takes to win LeMans....
Like Nissan G56 is not about winning, we all know that. Hopefully Nissan uses this year to properly prepare for their racing debut next year.
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Old 26 Jun 2014, 20:00 (Ref:3426908)   #5053
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Like Nissan G56 is not about winning, we all know that. Hopefully Nissan uses this year to prepare for their proper racing debut next year.
Fixed that for you.
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Old 26 Jun 2014, 21:38 (Ref:3426938)   #5054
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Like Nissan G56 is not about winning, we all know that. Hopefully Nissan uses this year to properly prepare for their racing debut next year.
You can be a lot more direct than that - if you have something to say, say it straight. What does Nissan and G56 have to do with my post?
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Old 27 Jun 2014, 00:27 (Ref:3426977)   #5055
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The magic word there is "rotary!"
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Old 27 Jun 2014, 00:30 (Ref:3426979)   #5056
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That just makes the project even more questionable. If you were going to use any ICE for this type of competition, I'm not sure the rotary is most people's first choice.
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Old 27 Jun 2014, 07:41 (Ref:3427047)   #5057
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The magic word there is "rotary!"
Well, it's obvious that it won't cut it in the LMP1 class. However, what about GTE and LMP2 when it comes to Wankel Engines?
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I believe Mazda is talking about using the rotary again, and have long been working on fuel cell tech. Becoming associated in a project like this, and returning to LeMans in G56 would be a good marketing ploy for them.
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Old 30 Jun 2014, 20:35 (Ref:3428726)   #5059
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Old 30 Jun 2014, 21:11 (Ref:3428741)   #5060
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John Dagys suggesting a new GTE programme is very close. Any ideas?

McLaren? Ford? Honda? Audi? New privateer team with an existing car (would love to see a better-supported Ferrari programme stateside)?
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John Dagys suggesting a new GTE programme is very close. Any ideas?

McLaren? Ford? Honda? Audi? New privateer team with an existing car (would love to see a better-supported Ferrari programme stateside)?
Honda, Lexus or McLaren would be my guess.
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Old 30 Jun 2014, 23:20 (Ref:3428786)   #5062
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John Dagys suggesting a new GTE programme is very close. Any ideas?

McLaren? Ford? Honda? Audi? New privateer team with an existing car (would love to see a better-supported Ferrari programme stateside)?
It's McLaren, the 650S GT3 is ready to be a GTE with new bodywork, and some small changes with mechanical bits.

Ford is going to be here, just a matter of when.

The manufacturers are going to force a GTE/3 convergence by building a chassis that is similar enough to be used in both.

Audi-eventually.
Honda-no.
Lexus-very doubtful
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Old 30 Jun 2014, 23:42 (Ref:3428792)   #5063
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HPD has been working on the NSX GTE since 2012.

The production 2016 NSX will be shown at Detroit in January 2015 and you can order it in March 2015 with delivery starting Summer 2015.

The original plan was to race it before it goes on sale.

The only problem is they what to race it Hybrid.

But in 2013 they switched the power-train layout from Transverse to longitudinal and from a old production 60 degree SOHC V6tt to a street legal racing engine(very compact with no external belt to run auxiliaries)90 degree DOHC V6.

So they will run it without hybrid or will get a waiver.
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Honda, Lexus or McLaren would be my guess.
I think that would be a good start. Although I would be more than happy to see a manufacturer step up out of the left-field.

The Lexus GTE exist, albeit in an older form. The Mclaren GTE was on the cards. Honda want to race the NSX at Le Mans. I really can't tell which one is closest. They all have cars in the wings.
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I believe Mazda is talking about using the rotary again, and have long been working on fuel cell tech. Becoming associated in a project like this, and returning to LeMans in G56 would be a good marketing ploy for them.
Let's hear that bad boy scream once again.
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It's McLaren, the 650S GT3 is ready to be a GTE with new bodywork, and some small changes with mechanical bits.

Ford is going to be here, just a matter of when.

The manufacturers are going to force a GTE/3 convergence by building a chassis that is similar enough to be used in both.

Audi-eventually.
Honda-no.
Lexus-very doubtful
You say Ford will be here but Lexus is doubtful. Ford was only rumored to be counting on a convergence thats not likely. Lexus otoh has expressed interest in having the RC F run at Le Mans and even have a car thats been developed. Id think its more likely to see them than Ford. If this rumor even pans out
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Ford GT rumors again?


Maybe they can run a Ford F-150 in GT3 spec.

Hey after the Bentley, you'll never know...
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Commence countdown to another rumor that is going to fall flat.
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Maybe they can run a Ford F-150 in GT3 spec.

Hey after the Bentley, you'll never know...
Just let the Mustang run in GT3 (and GTE) since it's well-known than their F-150 pickup!
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But the F-150 has the ECOBOOST!


But seriously, Ford doesn't care about GT or any high level racing unless it promoting their latest corporate gimmick or NASCAR.
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Ford had pretty much zero input in the former Ford GT1 & GT3 (+Doran GT2) programs right?
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Yup

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Ford racing only put out money to partially help Robertson racing switch to michelins. The rest was all Robertson racing and matech.At least those where the most memorable.
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John Dagys suggesting a new GTE programme is very close. Any ideas?

Ferrari??





Oh sorry I thought you were referring to P1 there

Seriously though I would say McLaren. That 650 GT3 revealed on the weekend looks like it could be converted to a GTE a lot easier then most GT3 cars.
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Food for thought: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114736

Still a bit later than I would have liked. But 2016 is the new ruleset supposedly. That car belongs at Le Mans for sure.
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