Mercedes Benz @ Bathurst

GROUPA · 12 Jan 2008, 08:59 (Ref:2104610)

Mercedes Benz Australia have booked Bathurst for 3 days to launcg the CLK 63 Black edition. Part of the release they will be bringing out a current spec C Class DTM race car with on or the euro drivers to attempt to break the outright lap record.

Does the C Class have a chance to break Murphy's record ?

On paper the DTM car seems to have it all over the V8 Supercar, it would be lightning quick across the mountain IMO just like the 2 litres were.

**GTRMagic** · 12 Jan 2008, 09:03 (Ref:2104611)

Are they bringing a works driver too?

davelise · 12 Jan 2008, 09:09 (Ref:2104612)

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Originally Posted by GROUPA

Does the C Class have a chance to break Murphy's record ?

You bet. Assuming their drivers come to terms with the track. The car certainly will be quicker than a V8 supercar.

275 GTB-4 · 12 Jan 2008, 09:18 (Ref:2104618)

I certainly hope this attempt dosen't end in German tears

Sultan · 12 Jan 2008, 09:27 (Ref:2104619)

Any dates as to when this is going to happen?

GROUPA · 12 Jan 2008, 09:27 (Ref:2104620)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Are they bringing a works driver too?

I believe so but I dont know who Grand Prix week like the AMG drive days down at PI

EGG · 12 Jan 2008, 10:03 (Ref:2104631)

If this is a good indication, then 17-20 March. I'll be interested to see how it pans out.

17 Mar Mon Mercedes Benz Australia - Mt Panorama - Bathurst
18 Mar Tue Mercedes Benz Australia - Mt Panorama - Bathurst
19 Mar Wed Mercedes Benz Australia - Mt Panorama - Bathurst
20 Mar Thur Mercedes Benz Australia - Mt Panorama - Bathurst

http://www.firechase.org/calendar.html

mildura1963 · 12 Jan 2008, 10:13 (Ref:2104635)

Send Murph up on the day, then see who is quickest.....

bluesport · 12 Jan 2008, 10:31 (Ref:2104642)

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Originally Posted by mildura1963

Send Murph up on the day, then see who is quickest.....

Yes, Murph can block as well as anybody or put them into the wall like he did to Ambrose!

275 GTB-4 · 12 Jan 2008, 10:58 (Ref:2104657)

Quote:

Originally Posted by EGG

If this is a good indication, then 17-20 March. I'll be interested to see how it pans out.

17 Mar Mon Mercedes Benz Australia - Mt Panorama - Bathurst
18 Mar Tue Mercedes Benz Australia - Mt Panorama - Bathurst
19 Mar Wed Mercedes Benz Australia - Mt Panorama - Bathurst
20 Mar Thur Mercedes Benz Australia - Mt Panorama - Bathurst

http://www.firechase.org/calendar.html

So it will be run at the FoSC Historic Meeting....I will keep a look out for problems

racer69 · 12 Jan 2008, 14:16 (Ref:2104736)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROUPA

Part of the release they will be bringing out a current spec C Class DTM race car with on or the euro drivers to attempt to break the outright lap record.

Does the C Class have a chance to break Murphy's record ?

Greg Murphy doesn't hold the outright lap record.

The outright lap record can only be set during a race, hence why any time the Mercedes does will be unofficial.

GROUPA · 12 Jan 2008, 20:19 (Ref:2104888)

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Originally Posted by davelise

You bet. Assuming their drivers come to terms with the track. The car certainly will be quicker than a V8 supercar.

Anyone like to predict a figure

PorscheFanNo1 · 12 Jan 2008, 20:22 (Ref:2104889)

Under 2 min.

Mr Revhead · 12 Jan 2008, 21:32 (Ref:2104919)

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer69

Greg Murphy doesn't hold the outright lap record.

The outright lap record can only be set during a race, hence why any time the Mercedes does will be unofficial.

good point.. but for ****s and giggles itll be awesome

what is the out right record? weather offical or unoffical...
didnt some one take an F5000 around there?

i still reckon murphs car from that lap want legal!

mtpanorama · 12 Jan 2008, 23:19 (Ref:2104970)

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Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

So it will be run at the FoSC Historic Meeting....I will keep a look out for problems

Mercedes is the main sponsor of the FOSC weekend. The reason that the cost has become reasonable for us to compete at Mount Panorama is the fact that Merc has shared the track hire costs.

Oldtony · 12 Jan 2008, 23:28 (Ref:2104971)

Fairly typical of the usual Merc con. Turn up and put on a show when there is no competition.
If they had been serious about trying to prove themselves in the same league as BMW they would have run something in the 12hr.

WebberForWDC · 12 Jan 2008, 23:58 (Ref:2104975)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROUPA

Mercedes Benz Australia have booked Bathurst for 3 days to launcg the CLK 63 Black edition. Part of the release they will be bringing out a current spec C Class DTM race car with on or the euro drivers to attempt to break the outright lap record.

Does the C Class have a chance to break Murphy's record ?

On paper the DTM car seems to have it all over the V8 Supercar, it would be lightning quick across the mountain IMO just like the 2 litres were.

That's a bit mean...

however the car only has 400 hp and may not make it in a 2:06.8, on a slippery dusty track.

Fortunately, this will start an enthralling German V Aussie war, and Holden can bring up a VE bodied supercharged 7L sports sedan body on super-soft Bridgestones to get the title back.. sub 2:00 lap perhaps! Great stuff, and they will be able to do this without offending people who are running Ferraris, Porsches and Moslers built to actual regulations!

flor · 13 Jan 2008, 00:02 (Ref:2104976)

it has more like 500 hp. as a rule of thumb you can say they achieve the same lap times as a formula 3 car, i have no clue though if they let f3 cars on the bathurst track.

WebberForWDC · 13 Jan 2008, 00:11 (Ref:2104978)

If Lewis Hamilton breaks his leg driving a non-CAMS certified Sports Sedan style car, that is not supposed to lap around Mt. Panorama, at warp speed, then the spectacle could back fire media-wise for Mercedes?

The stiffly-sprung car will be very slow through the dipper, losing at least a second there.....

275 GTB-4 · 13 Jan 2008, 00:15 (Ref:2104982)

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Originally Posted by WebberForWDC

If Lewis Hamilton breaks his leg driving a non-CAMS certified Sports Sedan style car, that is not supposed to lap around Mt. Panorama, at warp speed, then the spectacle could back fire media-wise for Mercedes?

So maybe they should get Mark Webber to do it?? He has had an association with Mercedes and is bigger boned than Lewis

mildura1963 · 13 Jan 2008, 00:26 (Ref:2104985)

I will probably just be another dud publicity stunt, just like the Champ Car that was going to break the record & then only coasted around the track.

B24 · 13 Jan 2008, 00:34 (Ref:2104989)

It amazes me how many people think that holden are the be all end all.
Our series is not the quickest in the world. deal with it..
On a level playing field as last years 12hr was they didnt finish , with both Fords 10laps behind the BMW 335 and 5 laps behind the BMW 130. Sorry guys, in the real world they are not competitive..
Yet the Aust V8TC series is very competitive and entertaining with highly skilled teams, excellent presentation and event management providing many benifits to Austrailan motorsport ,our economy, our image on the world stage ,but we are the not the quickest.
DTM are pretty much the quickest touring car series in the world. Quicker than Japan's GT500 class I have been lead to believe.They are unbelievable under brakes as well as lightning corner speeds. They will smash the time if they dont smash!
We can only hope they are trialing the circuit to run a DTM round in Australia which would be something not to miss.
Fingers crossed.
Regarding someones quote on the Merc verses BMW in the 12hr, I sure I read an anouncement Merc is running this year. Can anyone confirm?
Cheers

lookleft · 13 Jan 2008, 01:13 (Ref:2105003)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebberForWDC

That's a bit mean...

however the car only has 400 hp and may not make it in a 2:06.8, on a slippery dusty track.

Fortunately, this will start an enthralling German V Aussie war, and Holden can bring up a VE bodied supercharged 7L sports sedan body on super-soft Bridgestones to get the title back.. sub 2:00 lap perhaps! Great stuff, and they will be able to do this without offending people who are running Ferraris, Porsches and Moslers built to actual regulations!

Hang on, Holden already did that didn't they ... killed that series off nicely.

00 XR8 · 13 Jan 2008, 01:36 (Ref:2105011)

Quote:

Originally Posted by B24

It amazes me how many people think that holden are the be all end all.
Our series is not the quickest in the world. deal with it..
On a level playing field as last years 12hr was they didnt finish , with both Fords 10laps behind the BMW 335 and 5 laps behind the BMW 130. Sorry guys, in the real world they are not competitive..

But hang on, it isn't really about Holden vs Mercedes is it? It is about the speed of a V8Supercar vs the speed of a DTM car. Whether it is Holden or Ford, Mercedes or Audi doesn't really matter, and it certainly has nothing to do with any production car race results. It is about the V8Supercar regulations as apposed to the DTM regs.

Anyway, the corner speed of the DTM cars are staggering, so commonsense says they will be quicker. And on top of that, I highly doubt that Mercedes would bring a car over here under the premise that they 'hope it will be quicker'. They would only go to the expense if they know it will be quicker...........

Chatters · 13 Jan 2008, 01:42 (Ref:2105013)

Quote:

Originally Posted by B24

Regarding someones quote on the Merc verses BMW in the 12hr, I sure I read an anouncement Merc is running this year. Can anyone confirm?
Cheers

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