|
||||||||||
|
||||||||||
4 Jun 2015, 09:47 (Ref:3544836) | #101 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,812
|
Quote:
|
|||
__________________
a salary slave no more... |
4 Jun 2015, 22:40 (Ref:3545019) | #102 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,088
|
||
|
3 Jul 2015, 03:50 (Ref:3555529) | #103 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,088
|
Alguersuari licence suspended by FIA due to health concerns.
"On June 6th, after the Moscow ePrix I suffered a faint as a result of dehydration and extreme exhaustion during the race." http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119653 Really in a Formula E race! Dieting? |
|
|
3 Jul 2015, 08:39 (Ref:3555560) | #104 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,812
|
Two-week old news, what made you resurrect it now?
|
||
__________________
a salary slave no more... |
3 Jul 2015, 09:52 (Ref:3555569) | #105 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,088
|
||
|
28 Feb 2016, 10:19 (Ref:3618373) | #106 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,088
|
||
|
29 Feb 2016, 15:34 (Ref:3618725) | #107 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5,873
|
Quote:
Richard |
||
__________________
To paraphrase Mark Twain... "I'm sorry I wrote such a long post; I didn't have time to write a short one." |
2 Mar 2016, 00:07 (Ref:3619147) | #108 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,088
|
Quote:
I believe that the dehydrated superlight driver suffers a much greater chance of injury in an accident. Lack of cerebrospinal fluid, and lack of muscle and fat to cushion an impact. Same sort of trouble that boxers face after trying to make a weight before a fight. More: http://www.f1technical.net/news/2026...098ecafdcce9de |
||
|
2 Mar 2016, 02:14 (Ref:3619168) | #109 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,812
|
No-one forces them to drive F1 cars, if they don't like it don't do it.
Maybe the FIA can encourage the teams to only employ small drivers. Jockeys have coped with a low weight requirement for decades. |
||
__________________
a salary slave no more... |
2 Mar 2016, 07:26 (Ref:3619191) | #110 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,088
|
Quote:
Seriously though weight parity is a simple fix, fair, and opens the pool of talent further. Last edited by wnut; 2 Mar 2016 at 07:36. |
||
|
2 Mar 2016, 10:59 (Ref:3619234) | #111 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,812
|
|||
__________________
a salary slave no more... |
2 Mar 2016, 11:23 (Ref:3619240) | #112 | |
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 1998
Posts: 16,760
|
i agree fully that weight parity is a good thing, but bear in mind that if you do that in f1 you have to do it across all the single seater series at least. in the lower stuff, the guys who are taller and naturally broader can get away with dodging the weights, because you don't need a great deal of strength, just stamina. when you get to gp3 and f3 and need more upper body strength it gets a lot harder to hit the ideal weight if you're not very slender naturally.
so a lot of these guys are creating unhealthy habits to keep to weight limits in their mid-teens. not only is it when they're developing physically, it's mentally as well. blackmailing yourself to undereat and stay at a certain weight because if you don't you can't compete in the sport that forms a big part of your identity is a really terrible idea. i'm not sure what the rules are in endurance racing but they seem to encourage a far more healthy body and lifestyle - when you get a scrawny single seater kid crossing over the first thing they do is pick up the weights and get their shirt off on instagram and if we're talking about this with male athletes, who naturally carry a lot less body fat than their female counterparts, you can imagine how a woman would struggle if she happened to be very gifted but also.... very gifted. |
|
__________________
devils advocate in-chief and professional arguer of both sides |
2 Mar 2016, 15:03 (Ref:3619309) | #113 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,193
|
A form of parity has been used since 1995, as the FIA started to measure the minimum weight including the driver. The drivers' weight was not taken into account before that year. As far as I know, the lack of any parity was not a real issue, despite power steering and semi-automatic gearboxes were already in use then. And in those days the cars were a lot lighter than the contemporary ones. Hence, the drivers' weight affected the car's performances a lot more. What makes it different nowadays then?
|
||
__________________
'Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines.' - Enzo Ferrari |
2 Mar 2016, 17:01 (Ref:3619339) | #114 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5,873
|
Quote:
The bottom line is that someone will always line up regardless of the risk. If you told people that they could be on live TV and be famous, but the catch being that they would have to jump into a meat grinder and die. I am sure more than one would volunteer. Quote:
Richard |
|||
__________________
To paraphrase Mark Twain... "I'm sorry I wrote such a long post; I didn't have time to write a short one." |
2 Mar 2016, 18:12 (Ref:3619351) | #115 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 9,748
|
i always thought the aspect of weight and height were an issue in that several capable drivers were losing out on seats so the weight/height limit hurts the size and quality of the talent pool rather then it being a health issue.
dehydration is of course a problem but is that directly connected to weight? rather is a lighter person more susceptible to the effects of dehydration and its affect on motor skills then a heavier person is? |
||
__________________
Home, is where I want to be but I guess I'm already there I come home, she lifted up her wings guess that this must be the place |
2 Mar 2016, 19:19 (Ref:3619378) | #116 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 11,402
|
Quote:
. |
|||
|
3 Mar 2016, 00:27 (Ref:3619454) | #117 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,812
|
|||
__________________
a salary slave no more... |
5 Mar 2016, 23:02 (Ref:3620312) | #118 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,088
|
Esoteric weight issue solved by Indycar years ago!
http://www.indycar.com/News/2012/Mar...ht-equivalence |
|
|
6 Mar 2016, 00:54 (Ref:3620344) | #119 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5,873
|
Quote:
1. Easy to do 2. Fair Not to mention potentially a good thing for driver safety. You can easily find articles and interviews elsewhere in which drivers are trying to balance their fitness level. If they exercise too much (get too fit) they have weight issues. Watch this interview with Jenson Button... http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/241...ct-for-mclaren Ignore the Alonso/Button pairing tagline as its an interesting interview that covers a few different topics (testing, sounds of engines, halo concept, easy of driving the current cars, Alonso, etc.), but listen to what he says about what he has to do to manage his weight at about the 4:40 mark. Richard |
||
__________________
To paraphrase Mark Twain... "I'm sorry I wrote such a long post; I didn't have time to write a short one." |
7 Mar 2016, 09:31 (Ref:3620826) | #120 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,088
|
Thanks Richard, interesting comments from Jenson, I somehow find the whole scenario at 4:40 unspeakably sad. When a driver feels he has to put on weight over the winter to protect his health, then something just has to wrong! As for coffee and water for breakfast, yuck! This really needs to be stopped, where is the GPDA?
|
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Driver weight in FF1600 | chris1600 | Club Level Single Seaters | 66 | 14 Nov 2007 10:58 |
Driver Parity: To Be Or Not To Be? | Chiefy | Formula One | 42 | 4 Nov 2007 02:37 |
EERC to possibly adopt power-to-weight parity | zac510 | National & Club Racing | 43 | 28 Nov 2006 10:21 |
TEGA Introduce Parity System | wishbone | Australasian Touring Cars. | 6 | 10 Sep 2002 05:03 |
Driver and car weight | Russfeld | National & International Single Seaters | 2 | 10 Aug 2002 10:44 |