FG Falcon Supercar Sneak Peak

[CooperS79]

Hope this hasn't been posted yet

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...-11088,00.html

[bahodie]

Wowsers, its blue!

[rich07]

OMG!! It has XR headlights!!!!!

[deeks6]

I suspect, because of Blueprint, it will be like the Holden - bearing no real resemblance to the road car.

May as well just change the name to AUSCAR now ... hang on, Bob might still own that

[bludvl_x19]

Originally Posted by deeks6

I suspect, because of Blueprint, it will be like the Holden - bearing no real resemblance to the road car.

May as well just change the name to AUSCAR now ... hang on, Bob might still own that

I would quite imagine that he will.

Are they going to cut a chunk out of the car to conform to Blueprint like Holden did? In order to keep parity with the cars that no longer rn in the championship (VT-Z & AU-BF)? makes the cars even more removed, with only the badge being the common part to the road car, like deeks has said.

Mick

[Silver GT]

looks like a split windscreen just like the FX

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by Silver GT

looks like a split windscreen just like the FX

Looks to me like the windscreen hasn't been fitted yet. It's one of the last things to go in when building a car from scratch, less chance of it getting broken and easier access to internal componentry.

[Silver GT]

Originally Posted by deeks6

I suspect, because of Blueprint, it will be like the Holden - bearing no real resemblance to the road car.

May as well just change the name to AUSCAR now ... hang on, Bob might still own that

I was thinking along similar lines....

My thought was V8 Aussie Racers........in a couple of years thats all they will be. Fireglass Bodies on tubed framing using outdated mechainicals.

That knucklehead Cattach is so far from reality with his comments about the sports roots. ( contained in the article in Auto Action)

He realy needs to get his head out of his arse and walk around the general admission carpark and get with the spectatators rather than hanging around the pits and corporate Boxes.

I was under the impression the series started with good old Ford V Holden rivalry.

These guys are wondering why they cant get sponsorship....maybe its because the sport is moving away from the cars people can Identify with.....since when has a Ford had a 5 ltr V8.

If someone was to push production racing a bit more I think they'd be on a winner.

[Silver GT]

Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

Looks to me like the windscreen hasn't been fitted yet. It's one of the last things to go in when building a car from scratch, less chance of it getting broken and easier access to internal componentry.

it was a joke Joyce...............has everyone lost their sense of humour around here

[bludvl_x19]

Originally Posted by Silver GT

I was under the impression the series started with good old Ford V Holden rivalry.

I was under the impression it started when a Jap car dominated the ATCC, and the rules were changed to promote a jingoistic two make category, but hey, either way gets you to the same point.
I do agree with a number of your other points, such as the production car route.


Mick

[Chatters]

The name "V8 Supercar" doesn't suggest that it has anything in common with the road cars, so why change the name?

[MPA]

Originally Posted by Silver GT

He realy needs to get his head out of his arse and walk around the general admission carpark and get with the spectatators rather than hanging around the pits and corporate Boxes

Come on Silver, he looks better with the cranial anal insertion.



But seriously, the corporate people should complain about the way they’re treated at most sporting events. They pay large amounts of money for the privilege and subsidise the entry fee for the knuckle dragging general admission type of fan.

Footy, cricket, motor racing, whatever the sport, remove the corporate element and watch the GA crowd whinge when entry prices double.

The toothless, great-coated, tattooed, beer swilling, knuckle dragging, bogan general admission type might not like the taste of Chardonnay but they could at least say thanks to the Corps for keeping the GA prices down enough so they don’t have to sell both kidneys for a weekend of motor sport.

[peckstar]

i think you might be dreaming a bit MPA, might head down to my local race track today as a spectator, there will be no corporates but there will be no entrance fee either.

Corporates have pushed the price up for the average fan. corporates mean more sponsorship but as result the series charges the track more which means higher entry costs for the paying fan.

"The toothless, great-coated, tattooed, beer swilling, knuckle dragging, bogan general admission type " well that covers the holden fans, what about us ford fans though

[deeks6]

Originally Posted by Silver GT

If someone was to push production racing a bit more I think they'd be on a winner.

This is getting closer and closer, I reckon ... all it needs is for one of Ford or Holden to blink and it will happen.

Imagine if ... Ford pulled out of V8 Dinosaurs and put 2 FPVs, 2 blown 6s and a couple of Focuses and Mondeos into the Prod series with all their A Grade drivers ... they blitz the first round they are in, splash it all over the media "You can buy one of these blah blah"

What do you think the General would do? (Its a rhetorical question, we all know the answer).

If they anyone with some marketing smarts, they would have all this planned and ready to go.

[deeks6]

Originally Posted by peckstar

i
"The toothless, great-coated, tattooed, beer swilling, knuckle dragging, bogan general admission type " well that covers the holden fans, what about us ford fans though

You are cruel ... I saw one with teeth once

[browney]

Originally Posted by Silver GT

These guys are wondering why they cant get sponsorship....maybe its because the sport is moving away from the cars people can Identify with.....since when has a Ford had a 5 ltr V8.

If someone was to push production racing a bit more I think they'd be on a winner.

I don't.

NASCAR and Formula 1 are some of the most popular motorsport varities in the world and they have very little to do with road cars. Unlike most of the people on this board, I doubt the general public knows or cares about the difference between a V8 supercar and a road going car. They do know the difference between boring/exciting sport and cheap/expensive entertainment though.

The demands of a good race car and road car are far enough apart that production racing has become hard. A manufacturer would (reasonably) much rather make a car that has good nvh, comfort and an engine suitable for street driving rather than make cars designed for racing. You can get away with production motorcycle racing because people in the market for a sports bike will put up with something that makes it's power at high rpm and has race ergonomics.

[mountainstar]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Corporates have pushed the price up for the average fan. corporates mean more sponsorship but as result the series charges the track more which means higher entry costs for the paying fan.

I've mentioned this before, but having traveled the world to different races and many all over the USA, I think Australians get a pretty good deal for what is on offer for a V8 Supercar weekend, entry costs/tickets et al.

[peckstar]

mountainstar, im not entirely disagreeing with you, but have you tried taken your wife and your fifteen and thirteen year ol to the track for the weekend. you can spend nearly a weeks pay to do it.

[dsg]

Originally Posted by deeks6

You are cruel ... I saw one with teeth once

But with respect, those teeth were a family heirloom and shared between the entire family.

[mmciau]

Originally Posted by deeks6

This is getting closer and closer, I reckon ... all it needs is for one of Ford or Holden to blink and it will happen.

Imagine if ... Ford pulled out of V8 Dinosaurs and put 2 FPVs, 2 blown 6s and a couple of Focuses and Mondeos into the Prod series with all their A Grade drivers ... they blitz the first round they are in, splash it all over the media "You can buy one of these blah blah"

What do you think the General would do? (Its a rhetorical question, we all know the answer).

If they anyone with some marketing smarts, they would have all this planned and ready to go.

Oh how so close to the mark you are!

Cochrane would have to "take an aspirin and a lie down"

His parties feeding his current cash cow would wander off to another group!

And I have a feeling it's not too far off because of the media and Wall Street generated economic pressures on the bleeding "Joe Public" to forsake the big 6s and 8s and to downsize to smaller cars that use less petrol than those "big thirsty 6s and V8s". So the racing screamers are not far off from being resurrected again.

Mike

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by mmciau

Oh how so close to the mark you are!

Cochrane would have to "take an aspirin and a lie down"

His parties feeding his current cash cow would wander off to another group!

And I have a feeling it's not too far off because of the media and Wall Street generated economic pressures on the bleeding "Joe Public" to forsake the big 6s and 8s and to downsize to smaller cars that use less petrol than those "big thirsty 6s and V8s". So the racing screamers are not far off from being resurrected again.

Mike

According to todays paper FPV have an FG GTHO planned. It could be ideal for GTP.

[MPA]

Originally Posted by peckstar

i think you might be dreaming a bit MPA, might head down to my local race track today as a spectator, there will be no corporates but there will be no entrance fee either.

Would that be one of those, stuck in the 60's club level events?

I'll stick by my remark that Corporates are keeping the GA prices down for now.

Face it, Corps get as much beer as they can drink. (about 6 will see most of them legless) A hot lunch, worth about $20.00 at the local Legues Club, a cheap hat, program and the pay zillions to sit in a canvas tent and if they don't show up on the day, there's no refund.

The money made from corps, in my opinion keeps GA prices down.

But I'm hearing you loud and clear about GA family prices etc to enjoy a day trackside. But I can't see the link between getting an event or series sponsor pouring a bucket load of cash into the sport and an increase in ticket pricing.

[panel damage]

Seen the fg road car and the race car now and as a FORD fan - Hate both.


FG obviuosly stands for F#$%^G Grose

[MPA]

What is pleasing to read is the proposed savings of 500K per car.

Let's see if the panel of experts can make it happen.

[mountainstar]

Originally Posted by mmciau

Oh how so close to the mark you are!

Cochrane would have to "take an aspirin and a lie down"

His parties feeding his current cash cow would wander off to another group!

And I have a feeling it's not too far off because of the media and Wall Street generated economic pressures on the bleeding "Joe Public" to forsake the big 6s and 8s and to downsize to smaller cars that use less petrol than those "big thirsty 6s and V8s". So the racing screamers are not far off from being resurrected again.

Mike

Over here in the states, Joe Six Pack has made the move towards smaller cars but still wants the V8's in Nascar.