WorstDriver? - Page 2

Webslinger · 28 Mar 2003, 17:40 (Ref:551333)

Hubert Hahne from circa 1970 I think. So the story goes, he was adamant that he was so quick and the March was so slow, he wanted his money back. As a compromise Herd and/or Mosley agreed to do so, provided they could let Ronnie Peterson out in the car, just to see how bad it was. Peterson subsequently went several seconds a lap faster and... well, end of story really!

krt917 · 29 Mar 2003, 08:36 (Ref:551900)

Yes, a brilliant story. He had claimed that his customer car was a MUCH lower spec than the works cars. At the test, not only did Ronnie go several seconds quicker than Hahne he apparently also went quicker than he had gone in his own car. Hahne went back to Germany, never to be seen again....

**Peter Mallett** · 29 Mar 2003, 09:14 (Ref:551925)

You could also include Colin Chapman. I think it was 1958 when he tried to qualify a Vanwall. Don't recall the circuit though.

corkholio · 29 Mar 2003, 10:13 (Ref:551949)

Quote:

Originally posted by zootv
Alex Yoong

You better watch out when you say things like that. Half the CART forum will jump you because over there they think he is the next Senna.

**Peter Mallett** · 29 Mar 2003, 10:21 (Ref:551956)

Just goes to show how easily pleased some people are. It also shows that there is a big difference between the disciplines.

KA · 29 Mar 2003, 10:42 (Ref:551975)

Quote:

Originally posted by Peter Mallett
You could also include Colin Chapman. I think it was 1958 when he tried to qualify a Vanwall. Don't recall the circuit though.

French GP 1956 at Rheims- it was his only attempt at F1 as a driver, and he didn't just try to qualify the Vanwall- he was actually 5th fastest (outqualifying the likes of Moss & Hawthorn ...), but crashed the car-

http://members.fortunecity.com/quint...1965/1956f.htm

BootsOntheSide · 29 Mar 2003, 10:49 (Ref:551985)

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Originally posted by corkholio
You better watch out when you say things like that. Half the CART forum will jump you because over there they think he is the next Senna.

Can you actually find one quote where anyone has said anything similar to this? The msot favourable comment about Yoong ahs been that he was out of his depth in F1 (no one is denying that) but is not all that slow and doesn't crash, so could be a competant racer. No one is saying he can reach the podium, let alone the top step. While you're searching for outrageous praise which doesn't exist, I might search for one enthisaistic post you've printed.

corkholio · 29 Mar 2003, 10:52 (Ref:551986)

=joke=not serious=not to be taken literally.

Prost! · 29 Mar 2003, 12:22 (Ref:552067)

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Originally posted by corkholio
You better watch out when you say things like that. Half the CART forum will jump you because over there they think he is the next Senna.

Prost! · 29 Mar 2003, 12:23 (Ref:552069)

Quote:

Originally posted by Peter Mallett
Just goes to show how easily pleased some people are. It also shows that there is a big difference between the disciplines.

You've not a clue what you're talking about. Typical euro-snob comment.
Prost!

corkholio · 29 Mar 2003, 12:31 (Ref:552075)

Of course only someone from Berkeley would know what a snob is!

Thanks for your contribution to the topic, but since the only driver's name in your posts was Prost, I have to disagree. Prost might have been a ***** team owner but I think this is a thread for the worst drivers!

Rafael · 29 Mar 2003, 17:17 (Ref:552251)

All the japanese drivers! Mainly Taki Inoue!

Edmonton · 29 Mar 2003, 17:20 (Ref:552254)

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Originally posted by Rafael
All the japanese drivers! Mainly Taki Inoue!

Have to agree with you

**Adam43** · 29 Mar 2003, 17:39 (Ref:552267)

Please attack the post and not the poster! It's just an amusing light hearted thread afterall.

**Adam43** · 29 Mar 2003, 17:43 (Ref:552268)

Quote:

Originally posted by Peter Mallett
You could also include Colin Chapman. I think it was 1958 when he tried to qualify a Vanwall. Don't recall the circuit though.

It was 1958 French GP at Reims. It seems he qualified 5th, but a practice crash damaged his car and he didn't start.

Colin was considered a pretty decent driver.

ensign14 · 29 Mar 2003, 18:28 (Ref:552286)

Chapman was at the French GP in 1956, but he had the rep of a good driver.

If Deletraz was so bad, how come he had a couple of podia in F3000? When it was competitive? That alone has to elevate him above the likes of Campos and Lavaggi. And Rosset was a race winner.

If we are talking about RACING in F1, then Ottorino Volonterio, who managed to be non-classified at the Nurburgring (lapped 6x in a 22 lap race), has to be close.

If we are talking about those who never qualified, Otto Stuppacher takes the cake, he would have needed a 130% rule to qualify (2'11" at the Glen in 1976, when pole time was in the low 1'40s). And Giovanna Amati is probably still trying to complete a flying lap from the 1992 Brazilian GP.

Of those who scored points, Pedro Diniz. Did he ever win a race of any description anywhere?

**Adam43** · 29 Mar 2003, 19:41 (Ref:552335)

It was 1956 when Chapman drove in practice for the French GP.

429CJ · 29 Mar 2003, 20:35 (Ref:552383)

1.Philippe Adams
2.Giovanni Lavaggi
3.Luca Badoer

corkholio · 29 Mar 2003, 22:25 (Ref:552463)

Campos and Lavaggi never stalled on the racing line like Deletrash did. Deletrash never seemed to pay up either.

MichaelH · 29 Mar 2003, 22:32 (Ref:552468)

Ricardo Rosset. Unlike some you always got the impression there was some speed there, but his mental strength was non-existant and as he got more and more depressed over the 1998 season his performances became embarassing.....for example his pathetic display in Monace qualifying......the funniest/saddest thing I have ever seen.

Prost! · 30 Mar 2003, 01:21 (Ref:552572)

Quote:

Originally posted by corkholio
Of course only someone from Berkeley would know what a snob is! !

Don't believe such stereotypes!

-GOP card & U.S. flag bearer

P.S. watch your San Marino GP tape from '91... you may rethink the Prost comment.

avsfan733 · 30 Mar 2003, 02:41 (Ref:552614)

I am going to go with the modern answer:
Yoong, but honestly I had forgotten that B-ernie had actually driven in F1 not just driven it into oblivion

Webslinger · 30 Mar 2003, 09:11 (Ref:552717)

Steady 'ensign' on having a go at Giovanni Amati! The last interview I read with her suggested moe than a touch of fire in her veins... Better keep the extinguisher handy should she happen to cruise this forum.

ensign14 · 30 Mar 2003, 10:40 (Ref:552786)

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Originally posted by Webslinger
Steady 'ensign' on having a go at Giovanni Amati!

Actually I would sincerely love to...oh, wait, I see what you mean.

badoer fan · 30 Mar 2003, 11:29 (Ref:552820)

Quote:

Originally posted by 429CJ
1.Philippe Adams
2.Giovanni Lavaggi
3.Luca Badoer

*hissing noise of barely contained anger*