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21 Aug 2012, 09:31
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aren't the long yellows on road courses due to having lead lap and lapped car pitting separately like they do on ovals?? so that's going to soak up a couple of laps then they have to get them all lined and before they can go off..
I just accept that Nascar do things things different, enjoy it for what it is and get on with life
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22 Aug 2012, 00:46
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TThat said, the caution periods take too much time and happen too often, even on the speedways. Why? We'll never know; its NASCAR.
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More time for TV to have [even longer] ad breaks and for crowds to step up from their seats and spend money?
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22 Aug 2012, 01:25
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More time for TV to have [even longer] ad breaks and for crowds to step up from their seats and spend money?
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Sounds familiar to another popular American sport...
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22 Aug 2012, 11:49
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Interesting somebody has put this post up. I watched the race on Motors and was nearly throwing things at the TV with those cautions at the end. They were pretty unnecessary, went on far too long and were clearly there to manipulate the action. I've always been intrigued by NASCAR but never had access to coverage but with Motors covering the Nationwide this year I've watched quite a few races. This latest one really put me off if I'm being honest.
Others have mentioned their frustration with the commercialisation of motor sport and the various organisers. When I actually thought about the 14 or 15 series that I have some interest in, there is well over half of them that I get frustrated with. Some are just down to lack of TV coverage but in all other instances the reasons go back to organisers and their baffling decisions and management usually all geared towards maximising revenue, income and sponsors.
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23 Aug 2012, 01:48
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23 Aug 2012, 02:18
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Is that a man or a woman?? Just curious...
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23 Aug 2012, 02:23
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And I didn't mean to put myself above anybody or insult others like I apparently did in my "Silverstone WEC 2012" post.
Just making sure...
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23 Aug 2012, 02:26
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23 Aug 2012, 02:43
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Is that a man or a woman?? Just curious...
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Unless that is a Manzier, i assume its a woman... or was at one point.
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You know i only wear black bras.
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29 Aug 2012, 23:24
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I've been to two NASCAR races and have learned that Juan Pablo Montoya is from Brazil, Marcos Ambrose is a "Formula 1 p***y", and that Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Juan Pablo Montoya, and Kasey Kahne prefer men as their sexual partner of preference. Of course, I'm sure there many other series with fans slightly like this, although the atmosphere in the grandstands/spectator areas versus other motorsports can be described as "unique."
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30 Aug 2012, 10:43
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From what I've gleaned from American sports is that the crowd apparently like long periods of nothing happening: Baseball, Basketball, American Football (I actually enjoy the NFL). Probably why Ice Hockey is not as popular Stateside... too much happening, too few breaks in the play.
I become comatose watching 6 or 7 10+ minute cautions and, watching in the States, get ready for as many commercials as racing action. That was really what turned me off. Mercifully the British NFL coverage is great because they cut back to the studio and we get some analysis as opposed to the same five adverts being repeated ad nauseum for three hours.
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1 Sep 2012, 05:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amidst tundra
From what I've gleaned from American sports is that the crowd apparently like long periods of nothing happening: Baseball, Basketball, American Football (I actually enjoy the NFL). Probably why Ice Hockey is not as popular Stateside... too much happening, too few breaks in the play.
I become comatose watching 6 or 7 10+ minute cautions and, watching in the States, get ready for as many commercials as racing action. That was really what turned me off. Mercifully the British NFL coverage is great because they cut back to the studio and we get some analysis as opposed to the same five adverts being repeated ad nauseum for three hours.
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Comming from the country that invented cricket, this is pushing it a bit!
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2 Sep 2012, 19:47
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Part of the problem is that when you do 35mph under caution around a 2.7 mile road course and a 4 mile road course at Road America, it is going to take forever to do a lap.
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3 Sep 2012, 08:24
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Should have plenty of time to clean up the mess then... They do mess around!
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