Tgf?

drexel · 28 May 2001, 17:44 (Ref:97912)

I'm new to this forum and i sadly i have no idea what TGF stands for. I can only assume it is something like 'The GodFather', since the man is IMO the most skillful driver to grace this planet.

JeremySmith · 28 May 2001, 17:48 (Ref:97915)

Welcome to our friendly forum.

TGF stands for "That German fellow" it is easier than typing Michael Schumacher

Damon · 28 May 2001, 17:51 (Ref:97916)

Oh God not another of Schumachers deciples!! Have fun here

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Speed · 28 May 2001, 17:55 (Ref:97921)

"The German Ferrari".

Liz · 28 May 2001, 17:58 (Ref:97922)

AMoffat uses the letters "TGW." This is a somewhat less polite term for the same person.

drexel · 28 May 2001, 18:02 (Ref:97924)

Thanks everyone. Yes i am a Shumacher disciple. Interestingly enough, i don't think theres too many ppl out there who would claim to be a "disciple" of any other driver. That alone says something about the appeal of the man.

Liz · 28 May 2001, 18:43 (Ref:97940)

Well, not of the modern group of pilots weak in both skills and personal appeal, no. And there are more people here who don't care for TGF than that do. (Don't let that discourage you, though.)

However, there are plenty of "disciples" of Senna and Prost still out here, not to mention Mario, Gilles, Nelson and even Our Nige.

drexel · 28 May 2001, 19:55 (Ref:97970)

Hmmm, not sure how you came to the conclusion that current drivers are weak on skills. IMO, MS is just a class above. IYO, the other drivers are weak therefore making him look better than he is.

Yes, there maybe more TGF foes on this forum then friends. But theres no doubt his name is the one most mentioned.
I'd also say there are reasons for him having more detractors here than not. Without doing any research, id assume that there are more MS fans out in the real world (not just the internet), then there are haters.

Ralf's Girl · 28 May 2001, 20:03 (Ref:97979)

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Originally posted by Liz
However, there are plenty of "disciples" of Senna and Prost still out here, not to mention Mario, Gilles, Nelson and even Our Nige.

And the Ralfisti contingent of myself and Ralfanator.

And Moffat, if he ever admits to it.

Welcome to the boards, Drexel.

Speed · 28 May 2001, 20:11 (Ref:97984)

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Originally posted by drexel
...theres no doubt his name is the one most mentioned.

Montoya only has months here, and he is mentioned a lot too...

Liz · 28 May 2001, 20:51 (Ref:98007)

That is true - but I don't think anyone here really hates TGF. We just find him officious and rather difficult.

Someone once said he hated Rubens, but I think he was just frustrated with him.

I should qualify my opinion of today's grid by stating that I meant to add to that remark "in comparison to the 1979 Long Beach Grid", which is my benchmark for rating grids.

francis · 28 May 2001, 21:14 (Ref:98023)

I'm a rookie too - I think this is my tenth or eleventh post - though I am not a rookie in terms of F1 experience. Ferrari has always been my "Passione". But Nige and Damon have superceded that in their time. When MS first went to Gferrari I had a majot problem and for two years I never bought an MS badged ferrari model (I'm a big collector) and all my models from that time are Eddie's. However I have warmed and am now a bif MS fan. I am happy to use TGF as every time I type it I thinkl "The Great Ferraristi". If pushed I can even think TGW stands for "The Great Winner". SO THERE :-)

EERO · 28 May 2001, 21:37 (Ref:98038)

Welcome Francis and drexel. "TGF" was coined two years ago during Schumacher's enforced absence referring to "That German Fellow" who waited in the wings to upset the title race between Irvine and Hakkinen. Liz was the first to use the term and the first to abbreviate it. Some who come here consider it a bit of an insult, for others, its just easier to type than "Schumacher". I always thought it had overtones of being like"He whose name shall not be spoken", for though I am NOT a fan, I acknowledge his superiotity over the present field. Unlike Liz, I think the 1973 grid was the best.

Liz is correct in stating that there are many here who are not fans of TGF, but many are, and I am deeply commited to the principle that all discussions on the subject remain civil and that the "Is he Great,Does he suck eggs" threads are among the most tedious.

**Bononi** · 28 May 2001, 22:07 (Ref:98063)

Correct.

And by becoming a member you are invited to sign our letter that will be headed to TGF personally, asking him to adopt this initials in his cap and any advert that is related to him. Also the brand will be copyrighted by 10 Tenths, and all royalties will be reverted to a foundation created to help elder drivers and frustated title challengers.

TGF® (trademark)

Just kidding drexel TGF fan !

Welcome !

Valve Bounce · 28 May 2001, 22:17 (Ref:98066)

A big welcome to Drexel and another one to francis, just in case you missed the last one francis. Welcome to our friendly, abuse and insult free forum. PLease stay and post lots of posts because when you post 1000 posts, you qualify to entre the lucky draw for a Ferrari - the draw will be made when everyone reaches 1000 posts.
BTW, I use TGF because there is another MS in F1 - Mika Salo. Maybe we should call Mika Salo Mika Jr, seeing that MIka H is the superior driver.

Now I have started another argument, havn't I

senna12 · 28 May 2001, 23:15 (Ref:98083)

welcome drexel. when I first arrived, I thought it stood for "tres grand fromage", or loosely translated as "the big cheese". I have a lot of respect for the man, he is obviously CURRENTLY the best out there, but I think a lot of us feel he has gotten his championships by dint of Ferrari strategy coupled with his skill, as opposed to doing it alone. The quality of the competition is a factor too, but it helps when you drive a 250 million dollar car!
I don't mean to downplay Michael's tremendous skills, but his support system is the best there is. What if he'd been driving a Minardi for the past 5 years? (no disrespect to them

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francis · 28 May 2001, 23:43 (Ref:98086)

I'm no aplogist for TGF - but that Benetton he drove was not exactly the greatest. Not taking anything from Damon - I'll have nothing said against him - he did after all show JV where to go - but TGF did beat him fair and sqare (yes I know TGF did "cheat" in Australia but there were some fairly dodgy FIA decisions earlier that season). I wouldn't have said that at the time but in retrospect!!

TGF is still the best of the current crop - and if you could get the various team owners to talk straight for one moment - I've no doubt they would endorse that. Not that the others drivers are slouches - the competition is fierce.

Awaiting the flames <g>

JeremySmith · 29 May 2001, 03:25 (Ref:98147)

IMHO..I believe that Michael Schumacher is currently the best F1 driver on the planet...the others are no slouches either

neutral · 29 May 2001, 04:27 (Ref:98159)

Michael Schumacher is a God. Therefore he is the best!!

downforce · 29 May 2001, 05:55 (Ref:98170)

Hi drexel!
I love the "godfather" thingy!!real cool!

psssst, being a 'disciple' or whatever of Michael myself, i advise you to NOTICE how "loyal" the anti-schu people become with the DCs the Prosts, the Hills, the Mansells the more and more Schumacher wins!!....its a HUGE sour grapes kinda thing but its ok!

Michael on this forum has been accused of anything and evrything and thats whats fun about this place...

btw, Monaco'01 was sweet poetic justice for Monaco'00...dont u think?

drexel · 29 May 2001, 06:20 (Ref:98173)

I agree Downforce. The greater he becomes, the more resentment there is. But that is cool because thats what makes it worthwhile dicussing.

I also notice that Montoya gets a lot more respect, relatively, compared to TGF in this forum. I think he's shown to be more arrogant in a few months than Michael was. He in fact criticised every other racer out there, saying they were scared of Michael where he is not.
I wonder if people are more forgiving because he races for Williams.

ps. I know he is a rookie, but wasn't he a test driver for Williams before. I believe that part of the job was to 'drive' an f1 car in order to gain experience.

downforce · 29 May 2001, 06:35 (Ref:98181)

Montoya?

tsk tsk!..poor dude..thinks the only way to the top is to make headlines about the headline maker!

Seriously, his remarks about Schumacher are really only to make the media notice him..sad i say.

his move on Trulli at imola was awesome...wish he wud shut up and race!

Airhead · 29 May 2001, 06:53 (Ref:98190)

Of cause welcome welcome.

TGW stands for the German driver who takes matters into his own hands. At every opportunity I might add. Which is actually a plus, as due to failing sight he probably only has one season left in him.

Moffat

Alan Jones · 29 May 2001, 07:14 (Ref:98201)

welcome drex......
Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. The different opinions voiced here are very interesting.
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TGW stands for the German driver who takes matters into his own hands. At every opportunity I might add.

Moffatt, you are right on the ball!!

**Peter Mallett** · 29 May 2001, 07:34 (Ref:98208)

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Originally posted by AlanJones

TGW stands for the German driver who takes matters into his own hands. At every opportunity I might add.

Moffatt, you are right on the ball!!

But surely that's TGDWTMIOH. Bit long winded if you ask me.

I think that lovely Liz has it just right.

(Moff. The sycophnatic creep censor still ain't working).