NZV8's 2011/12 - Page 60

smokin'joe · 12 Jun 2012, 06:51 (Ref:3089372)

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Originally Posted by harcey

we need V8St (minus the boss) spearheading tier 1 with maybe nzv8(remember the structure is quite different) as a main support along with TRS as the big three with a rotating support program and all of a sudden we have big time nz motorsport Back........

finally, someone has hit the nail on the head.
what are the chances of prising the series away from Petch control

Icarus_nz · 12 Jun 2012, 07:18 (Ref:3089382)

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Originally Posted by smokin'joe

finally, someone has hit the nail on the head.
what are the chances of prising the series away from Petch control

Spot the parallel?

smokin'joe · 12 Jun 2012, 07:39 (Ref:3089390)

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Originally Posted by Icarus_nz

Spot the parallel?

no, sorry i don't.

Icarus_nz · 12 Jun 2012, 09:15 (Ref:3089420)

Sometimes in life you need a leader. Someone with vision and determination. Someone who is prepared to do what needs to be done.
And once the 'what is needing to be done' is done the little mice want a new leader. A soft leader. A leader that can be influenced and moved around.

Those who do not study history are destined to repeat it.

Thus ends the lesson

promax · 12 Jun 2012, 22:54 (Ref:3089868)

you're comparing ST to a historical figure like Winston Churchill?

err umm okay?

on_to_it · 13 Jun 2012, 03:24 (Ref:3089908)

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Originally Posted by promax

you're comparing ST to a historical figure like Winston Churchill?

err umm okay?

I doubt he means it quite that literally as ST is a category. He's referring to the fellow who leads them, their 'driving force' me thinks!

Chappelli · 13 Jun 2012, 21:45 (Ref:3090411)

Mr Petch would look great wandering around pit lane with a cigar, cane and top hat!

I think I'm with Icarus on this one, you can (and I have) ask questions about a number of things V8ST, but I don’t think you can deny that Mark Petch (and co) have done a pretty spectacular job of getting things up and running. They’ve managed to attract new (and well resourced) team owners to the class, they’ve got the broadcaster excited enough to develop and evolve their coverage and they’ve started to promote and pr the series and try and win fans.

I still believe it’s disappointing and possibly in the long term damaging that the split had to happen, but I also don’t think it’s too hard to understand why Petch and co believed that a split was better than continuing under TMC.

Icarus perhaps a better analogy would be “if you want to bake a cake, you’ve got to break a few eggs”.

supercar_freek · 13 Jun 2012, 22:06 (Ref:3090428)

If I was NZV8's I would be putting out info on the cars, teams, drivers every week. There is 6 months before the cars are surposed to be hitting the track and in my view it won't happen. However, if they regularily update people on the progress, excite fans with their technology and forget about ST and focus only on their own class then they may turn a skeptic like myself around.

promax · 13 Jun 2012, 23:50 (Ref:3090477)

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Originally Posted by Chappelli

perhaps a better analogy would be “if you want to bake a cake, you’ve got to break a few eggs”.

.. or take someone elses cake and put your name on it

RogerH · 14 Jun 2012, 01:22 (Ref:3090491)

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Originally Posted by promax

.. or take someone elses cake and put your name on it

You will have to wait and see if that was the case or not. Now that the issue is the subject of litigation it doesn't really matter who the various factions believe was right and who was wrong. A Judge will make that decision - probably sometime well into next year.

flyingduck · 14 Jun 2012, 03:39 (Ref:3090506)

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Originally Posted by RogerH

You will have to wait and see if that was the case or not. Now that the issue is the subject of litigation it doesn't really matter who the various factions believe was right and who was wrong. A Judge will make that decision - probably sometime well into next year.

And the lawyers will be the only winners as instead of money going into motorsport it will head to boring boats or whatever the lawyers like.

Icarus_nz · 14 Jun 2012, 06:35 (Ref:3090529)

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Originally Posted by promax

.. or take someone elses cake and put your name on it

Ah the singular view. I can see now that I've been remiss in the level of comprehension I've attributed you with.

Go up two posts and take Chapellis point. What IS happening in NZV8 world?
Believe what you will but I'm genuinely interested.

And Supercar Freek is stating the absolute obvious. All of that would be the right thing to do

If you want to sell a cake, tell us how great it is. Don't tell us that everybody elses cake is ****e and anyway they stole my mums recipe

SUMMARY - WHAT IS HAPPENING CURRENTLY IN NZV8 LAND?

promax · 14 Jun 2012, 07:23 (Ref:3090537)

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Originally Posted by Icarus_nz

Ah the singular view. I can see now that I've been remiss in the level of comprehension I've attributed you with.

Go up two posts and take Chapellis point. What IS happening in NZV8 world?
Believe what you will but I'm genuinely interested.

And Supercar Freek is stating the absolute obvious. All of that would be the right thing to do

If you want to sell a cake, tell us how great it is. Don't tell us that everybody elses cake is ****e and anyway they stole my mums recipe

SUMMARY - WHAT IS HAPPENING CURRENTLY IN NZV8 LAND?

talk about stating the obvious, chris! everyone wants to know what's happening in NZV8 land.. but you keep feeling this thread with your hero-worshipping posts

promax · 14 Jun 2012, 07:24 (Ref:3090538)

so what's new in NZV8 land this week?

Icarus_nz · 14 Jun 2012, 08:40 (Ref:3090568)

Who is Chris? And do you actually have anything to add to this thread Promax (except noise)

Joe - you should build a bridge. Achieve something for yourself why don't you?

MRX are building the cars. This much we know.
Who are the team charged with developing the package to a saleable product?
Who is responsible for assessing parity?
Has a pre production model run with an engine that will be used next year and the new gearbox?
What diff is being used?
Is data logging free or will there be limits on what is allowed?
What (if any) panels will be tin? If composites are used are they chopped strand glass, glass mat or something more exotic?
What rack is used?
Are the old NZV8 dampers going to be used or a newer spec thing?
What is the brake package?
Is it intended to keep the same race format as the season gone or will other options be explored?
Who is signed up so far and in what marque?

Sidewayz · 14 Jun 2012, 09:06 (Ref:3090579)

Have you been living under a rock incarus
http://www.nzv8s.co.nz/assets/file/n...E-brochure.pdf

Ugy · 14 Jun 2012, 09:12 (Ref:3090584)

Be good to see some specs on the Toyota

DX20VT · 14 Jun 2012, 09:19 (Ref:3090592)

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Originally Posted by Ugy

Be good to see some specs on the Toyota

Like what?
Toyota Specs

Toyota V8
Aluminum Block
480-490hp @ 445-475 ft lb
5 litre 4 valve
dry sump,

gearbox specs' brake package etc etc as per the same as all the rest???

smokin'joe · 14 Jun 2012, 09:27 (Ref:3090601)

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Originally Posted by DX20VT

Like what?
Toyota Specs

Toyota V8
Aluminum Block
480-490hp @ 445-475 ft lb
5 litre 4 valve
dry sump,

gearbox specs' brake package etc etc as per the same as all the rest???

are they dyno ponies or Toyota ponies ??
what revs are they making those numbers ?

DX20VT · 14 Jun 2012, 09:59 (Ref:3090639)

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Originally Posted by smokin'joe

are they dyno ponies or Toyota ponies ??
what revs are they making those numbers ?

Did you read the spec sheet for the ford and holden posted above? lol.

smokin'joe · 14 Jun 2012, 10:06 (Ref:3090646)

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Originally Posted by DX20VT

Did you read the spec sheet for the ford and holden posted above? lol.

yip, thats why i asked the source of the horse. Toyota Japan was always known for exaggerating HP a wee bit.

DX20VT · 14 Jun 2012, 10:21 (Ref:3090663)

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Originally Posted by smokin'joe

yip, thats why i asked the source of the horse. Toyota Japan was always known for exaggerating HP a wee bit.

It quotes the Ford at 486 and the holden at 490,
so obviously to maintain parity the Toyota will be around there somewhere,
which is why I said 480-490,
same with the torque I just quoted the ford and holden,
and apart from that ???

Will it really matter if it has 485 instead of 483 hp?
I dont think the actual real figures will matter as it wont be what the engine can produce, it will be what it is allowed to produce.

promax · 14 Jun 2012, 11:12 (Ref:3090731)

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Originally Posted by smokin'joe

are they dyno ponies or Toyota ponies ??
what revs are they making those numbers ?

Toyota Camry Update.
The MRX team has been flat out building the first of the Camry's.
A, B and C-pilar mounts are been fabricated to mount the door shuts. Front and rear crush frames have been made, with spares. All the alloy panelling ha...s been completed. The new front splitter buck has been finished and ready for the mounld to be taken. The TRD V8 should only be days away from arriving, apon which we will build engine mounts and headers, and the bonnet and roof have been at 'Mike Shaw Fibreglass' getting moulded.

smokin'joe · 14 Jun 2012, 11:27 (Ref:3090760)

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Originally Posted by promax

Toyota Camry Update.
The MRX team has been flat out building the first of the Camry's.
A, B and C-pilar mounts are been fabricated to mount the door shuts. Front and rear crush frames have been made, with spares. All the alloy panelling ha...s been completed. The new front splitter buck has been finished and ready for the mounld to be taken. The TRD V8 should only be days away from arriving, apon which we will build engine mounts and headers, and the bonnet and roof have been at 'Mike Shaw Fibreglass' getting moulded.

cool, can't wait to see it out testing.

on_to_it · 14 Jun 2012, 19:37 (Ref:3091045)

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Originally Posted by Sidewayz

Have you been living under a rock incarus
http://www.nzv8s.co.nz/assets/file/n...E-brochure.pdf

Good grief, that e-brochure production is amateur-hour stuff. Who put that together?

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