Asian Formula Renault 2008

[META4]

maybe there was 13 cars maybe ( I cant see them on the AFOS Report) but anyway still far from what used to be the field when FRD was organizing...

Hopefully it will get better for the next races and hope they will be able to attract some new teams , even if it looks difficult when you see how the serie is reported by organization(Late and uncomplete Press release, no proper website of reference...)

[Asa]

MAL has never been famous for the AFOS website anyway.

The fact that Formula Asia 2.0 has come to existence is already a testament to the displeasure of how FRD is running it series. There is no going back now. The teams and drivers will much rather run in a series with fair rules but fewer cars, then run in a series with unfair rules but more cars.

[Sun 1]

Guys,I would like to say something, AFOS looks 200% better, just give them a bit more time,they might be 12 cars only but it's 12 young boys racing there, no Gent' drivers......who can remenber the 1st FRD race back in 2000???
How many cars with real drivers for this week-end FRD's race in Shanghai...you guys tell me.

[META4]

When you see the Ranking of last season it was not bad

http://www.driverdb.com/standings/415-2007/

As far as i can remember the first Racing of the Asian Formula Renault 2000 was in Monza ...

[Monkey Head]

Originally Posted by META4

When you see the Ranking of last season it was not bad

http://www.driverdb.com/standings/415-2007/

As far as i can remember the first Racing of the Asian Formula Renault 2000 was in Monza ...

last season is last season,because all the teams which signing serious drivers has moved to AFOS already.

you are right,first ever Asian Formula Renault race is in Monza,2000.They race overthere because drivers recviving their car from Tatuus.Not meaning anything,and that moment all drivers are Gentleman racers.

For some information about following AFR race weekend,12-14 cars will be in there.I may be cruel to FRD,but have to say only 5-6 drivers will compete in everyrace I belive,and you will see other 7-8 drivers are news and only made 1-2 weekends....IMO AFR is just a supplement chance for teams,who has stored their cars in circuit,to makes $$$

[Monkey Head]

Originally Posted by Sun 1

who can remenber the 1st FRD race back in 2000???

I guess many people even non-motorsport fans will remenber first FRD race,because race winner is famous HK singer Aaron Kwok,his only victory on his 'racing career'.Serval Newspapers and TV stations has assigned their crews and reporter to Italy.ah hahahaha

[Lam Pak]

frd series will be alive cause renault sport is paying frd to get cars to have a decent grid and frd can let their friends to race for no entry fees excepting champ;the others are leaving. afos is the only way to survive.

[META4]

I do not believe that Renault Sport is paying FRD

Renault has no real interests to stay with FRD , does they?

[Sun 1]

I think Renault is trsuting FRD becuase they sold a lot of cars in the region but may be they will see that they is not much hope anymore....

[Asa]

FRD ran an ad in SCMP on Saturday to try to recruit a Sales & Marketing President and a Media Manager. I guess they are trying to get their act together in the marketing and media sectors. But their problem is probably on the technical side.

[superjohn]

Originally Posted by Sun 1

I think Renault is trsuting FRD becuase they sold a lot of cars in the region but may be they will see that they is not much hope anymore....

yes, sold many cars, but also made a fortune copying the aero parts

[superjohn]

Originally Posted by Sun 1

Guys,I would like to say something, AFOS looks 200% better, just give them a bit more time,they might be 12 cars only but it's 12 young boys racing there, no Gent' drivers......who can remenber the 1st FRD race back in 2000???
How many cars with real drivers for this week-end FRD's race in Shanghai...you guys tell me.

i heard 12 drivers total in Shanghai this weekend, of which 2 from FRD Ford touring car drivers, and 3 from Modena Motorsports (those competing in ASCC).

[Sun 1]

FRD made some copy or Renault Parts????? Does Renault know about this?

[Niggeer With Attitude]

wowoow if thats truth my brothers that just shows how bad FRD is.

[META4]

AFAIK all the teams where using fake parts and everybody knew it, no need to be hurt about that ... it is just cost effective

When you think how much it costs to import parts from Tattuus or Renault Sport to China , it is better and cheaper to buy the ones you have next to your hand

It had no influence on car performances

[Niggeer With Attitude]

What about durability??And in case of a crash??
We dont want brothers dying because of fake parts.

[META4]

I am not sure but i do not believe they copied Wishbones,Upright...

All what i know is they probably made in China Skid plates and maybe few other parts that is not engaging safety purpose

[Lam Pak]

12 cars in shaghai for frd race but just 2 are independents. the two of super champ as they down out the steps to follow in order to race in afos series.
frd and peka are organisation cars and modena is racing 3 cars in the championship cuase wayne chen and francis tjia own big ammounts of money to frd.

[Sun 1]

Yes, and I saw Ma Chi Ming in the list,long time friend of FRD ,it looks like FRD is trying to find anyone to fill up the grid.....Hey FRD , I also Cant drive!!!!!
( I might need a couple of training session ....)

[Asa]

Originally Posted by Lam Pak

wayne chen and francis tjia own big ammounts of money to frd.

Do you mean FRD owe them money? Otherwise why they race? It will cost the two guys more to race.

[META4]

Originally Posted by Niggeer With Attitude

wowoow if thats truth my brothers that just shows how bad FRD is.

sorry by when i look at the result of the race at Sepang , i can see only one difference between the "FRD" Championship and the "Afos" CHampionship...

I can see only as diference the age of the drivers .... the level is pretty much the same in both series

[Niggeer With Attitude]

My Brother Meta4

You think the level in the FRD series is the same as the AFOS????
You really have no ideia of all the good drivers in the AFOS championship.
At lest 8 out of the 13 are driving in the same pace.While in the FRD championship my brother you have drivers with 3 to 4 seconds diference to the leader.

[META4]

that is nothing new ... if you watch the result of the Qualifying of the first FRD Race at Zhuhai this season you have as well 10 drivers in 1.5 sec

http://www.frdsports.com/cn/press/co...ai_Qualify.jpg

Afos by creating his own championship did not improve the level overall, they just took the "best" drivers in their championship

[Sun 1]

I dont agrree with you Meta4.....AFos is only strating the series and it can only get better and bigger,FRD is already strugling to fill up the grid and the winners ( Kato and Kwong) cant not be compared with Beche,Rozentvitz.

[Lam Pak]

the first thing that you may want to do is to get the best drivers. afos did it.they are launching this competition with the intention of tradition within the worldwide jeopardy. frd is fighting to survive. In the desstruction process of the frd championship it seems as though a piece of shrapnel has lodged itself into renault sport’s forehead.


sun1 why you say beche is good driver? he was slapped by his teammate imperatori last year in art and he is just doing well cause michael ho decide to let sa silva and haryanto pay for him to be driver no.1 in the team and be champion. he is the no.1 driver in the team and he couldnt win all in one. champ should had contract someone quick from europe. we need another hanss li or may him again.