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Old 27 Sep 2006, 08:18 (Ref:1720979)   #1
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VE Spy pics - Woomera Magic!

For those that haven't seen today's AA. These pics were captured during aero testing at Woomera airstrip under the watchful eye of a Tega rep and a camerman hiding in the bushes I guess.

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Old 27 Sep 2006, 08:25 (Ref:1720989)   #2
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Interesting pics billy. I assume the rear bumper is going to get a remake before it is used?

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The car also reveals HRT's potential '07 paintwork.
Orange? I know Uncle Tom owns Toll HSVDT, but orange on a red factory car?
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 08:27 (Ref:1720995)   #3
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HRT gong Toll as well i would guess Toll HSVDT paint and who is at the wheel 1 of the Kelly bro's and it looksa more like the Toll HSVDT suit it looks like rick.

i havnt got the issue yet is there any more pics.
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 08:30 (Ref:1720999)   #4
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who is at the wheel 1 of the Kelly bro's and it looksa more like the Toll HSVDT suit it looks like rick..
Todd was the man behind the wheel.
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 08:39 (Ref:1721008)   #5
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Mayby that would be the 2007 Toll HSVDT livery.
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 08:39 (Ref:1721009)   #6
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does the 07 have anything to do with channel 7?
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 10:02 (Ref:1721059)   #7
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does the 07 have anything to do with channel 7?
....next year is 2007....

might also be a bit of a Brock tribute

I also doubt this is what the paint scheme will look like if/when its shown at bathurst
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 08:39 (Ref:1721010)   #8
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That looks a different orange to the HSVDT orange - in fact that looks almost like a DayGlo orange/red. Is that a possible tribute by Holden/TWPG for the launch car? Wasn't there a rumor that they were going to get Brockie to do the demo lap at bathurst this year (like Dick did with the BA falcon at bathurst 02)? Or, Maybe they are using DayGlo as a 'mix' of HRT Red/HSVDT Orange.

Mind you, without the helmet behing the lion's head, thats an HSVDT thing. And, maybe with Todd driving, that could be a hint to a 2007 driver lineup/new orange to be used on their Toll Cars???

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Old 27 Sep 2006, 08:56 (Ref:1721026)   #9
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Looks good. Have they jumped over their weight problems? Because I was reading in V8X that the VE Supertaxi might be heavier than the current VZ Commie Supertaxi.
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 09:08 (Ref:1721035)   #10
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i hope not other wise ford will definatly have the better power to weight ratio.
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 09:29 (Ref:1721047)   #11
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It's hard to tell it apart either from the BA or from the old VZ range.

So, how many model changes is it now since Holden has run a 5 litre V8?

Will the V8s still be running the same engines in 10 years' time when neither Holden nor Ford may be producing any V8 engined vehicles?
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 09:36 (Ref:1721055)   #12
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I think instead of importing GM/Ford US Racing NASCAR blocks and developing their own. I would like to see 6.0L high tech engines developed by Ford Australia and Holden Motorsport.
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 10:34 (Ref:1721078)   #13
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It's a bit "meh" for my liking. I like the front, but the rest of it seems to have no relevance...
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 10:37 (Ref:1721081)   #14
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A few points I think about these photos.
  • The artwork treatment on the bonnet probably reflects the branding of two factory teams i.e. get them looking more like a stable
  • I dont think it is da-glo orange. Its more likely to be the filters used in the photography.
  • 07 would have to do with 2007 i.e. you are looking at the 2007 weapon
  • It could be a real possibility that Todd will be with toll next year
  • Weight reduction shouldnt be an issue. Engineers can get pretty clever by removing and remodelling. The road car might be 100kgs heavier but a number of components contributing to that will not be relevant to a race car
  • Isnt the VE a beautiful looking car
  • These bulleted lists are cool
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 10:42 (Ref:1721084)   #15
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A few points I think about these photos.
  • Isnt the VE a beautiful looking car

In your eyes only,The road going car is BLOODY ugly and it looks like it is passed onto the race car.
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 10:48 (Ref:1721091)   #16
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In your eyes only,The road going car is BLOODY ugly and it looks like it is passed onto the race car.
In your eyes only, the road going car is BLOODY awesome, and it looks like it is passed onto the race car.
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 10:41 (Ref:1721083)   #17
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1200Datto27 has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
If you look at the pictures in the magazine, it looks like they are using a bi plane rear wing on the car, I didn't think that they where legal?
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 18:07 (Ref:1721391)   #18
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this class of racing sucks!!
Thats a VT-VZ turret FFS!
whats the point of calling it "new"??
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Old 27 Sep 2006, 23:33 (Ref:1721607)   #19
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this class of racing sucks!!
Thats a VT-VZ turret FFS!
whats the point of calling it "new"??
Agreed. Its the very opposite of what racing is meant to be. Instead of the racing driving the innovation and competition of the road cars, its in reverse!

They are too scared of one make dominating the series again, thats why they are doing it this way tx3dude.

Greg you know better than that - weight is never a problem, they could cut it back to 1200 kg if they wanted to, they just have to match the 1350kg.

As for the livery, it looks to be just like an amalgamated HRT/HSVDT paint scheme.

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Thats a VT-VZ turret FFS!
whats the point of calling it "new"??
Yep, It is definitely NOT a VE Commodore.
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Yep, It is definitely NOT a VE Commodore.
Neither is the current VZ a Commodore or BA a Falcon. They are all hand built silhouette racecars.
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Old 28 Sep 2006, 05:51 (Ref:1721733)   #22
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Thats a VT-VZ turret FFS!
whats the point of calling it "new"??
I agree 100%. V8s are becoming a complete joke.
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i agree to TSR's eyes only well to all ford blokes actually.

maybe the kelly that is leaving the walky stable is rick as he is off contract.doubt it though.
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The outside styling is very good but the interior is dreadful. A combination of plastic painted silver, plastic wood grain or plain matt plastic.

If the theme was hard plastic Holden have achieved their goal, but it makes the cockpit anything but inviting.
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The outside styling is very good but the interior is dreadful. A combination of plastic painted silver, plastic wood grain or plain matt plastic.

If the theme was hard plastic Holden have achieved their goal, but it makes the cockpit anything but inviting.
Luckily we dont have to worry about that much in the racer! Carbon, Metal and maybe a little bit of the plastic
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