Saloon Cars 2006 - Page 2

storyline · 27 Oct 2005, 08:56 (Ref:1444852)

Kerri - XW - no you both have taken it the wrong way - I was in no way suggesting they run in a non-CAMS meeting (besides - you will NEVER see an AASA event run at Barbagallo whilst the current circuit manager is employed there!)

I am suggesting a non-CAMS series round at a Barbagallo CAMS meeting - there is nothing to stop them doing that.

XW GT · 27 Oct 2005, 09:11 (Ref:1444865)

Quote:

Originally Posted by storyline

Kerri - XW - no you both have taken it the wrong way - I was in no way suggesting they run in a non-CAMS meeting (besides - you will NEVER see an AASA event run at Barbagallo whilst the current circuit manager is employed there!)

I am suggesting a non-CAMS series round at a Barbagallo CAMS meeting - there is nothing to stop them doing that.

I did understand what you were saying. What I was trying to explain was if they are committed to an eight round championship with the new CAMS series, starting in Feb/March and going through until December, how on earth can the Saloon Car guys possibly fit in an extra round in WA?

storyline · 27 Oct 2005, 09:15 (Ref:1444867)

Being realistic? Quite easy really - Babrgallo run a summer series each year which is outside of the normal East Coast National Championships (maybe thats what they really should be called). The Night Masters Series - they have used these meetings before to run a Nationals.

Look - not saying they should - but the option is there is they wanted to include WA and the CAMS series isnt going to WA (which - I have to say - I find very surprising given Barbagallo's recent attitude towards anything non-CAMS..hmmm makes me wonder if something has or is about to change over there).

Kieran - do you know why no CAMS series? Politics being played again there?

Kerri · 27 Oct 2005, 11:01 (Ref:1444943)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavvy

Kerri, can you comment on the other issues raised - your own opinions are of interest.

I can't really comment cavvy, I only know what I have been told and can speculate like the rest of you exactly what the outcome of discussions were, only that as I previously stated the CAMS Series is not going there next year & I think this year the Meeting that they did attend in WA was to close to Phillip Island for the Eastern States guys, as such only SA competitors turned up, which was brought up numerous times before, during and after the meeting by the WA people.
So even if it was included as a part of the 2006 championship, who is to say they would all turn up anyway.

On that I am in know way stating that they wouldn't turn up, just repeating what was said this year.
Hey I would love for SC to run a round in each state including Tassie & NZ, being an 8 round championship, how cool would that be

Oh and Storyline, I also knew exactly what you meant.

Kerri · 29 Nov 2005, 13:24 (Ref:1472940)

2006 National Championship Calendar Confirmed

Rd1 March 4/5 Wakefield Park

Rd2 April 8/9 Symmons Plains

Rd3 May 6/7 Oran Park

Rd4 June 3/4 Winton

Rd5 June 24/25 Mallala

Rd6 August 19/20 Phillip Island

Rd7 October 28/29 Oran Park

Rd8 November 25/26 Eastern Creek

Kerri · 24 Feb 2006, 05:57 (Ref:1530397)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerri

2006 National Championship Calendar Confirmed

Rd1 March 4/5 Wakefield Park

Rd2 April 8/9 Symmons Plains

Rd3 May 6/7 Oran Park

Rd4 June 3/4 Winton

Rd5 June 24/25 Mallala

Rd6 August 19/20 Phillip Island

Rd7 October 28/29 Oran Park

Rd8 November 25/26 Eastern Creek

2006 National Championship Calendar Changed

Rd1 March 4/5 Wakefield Park

Rd2 April 8/9 Symmons Plains

Rd3 May 6/7 Oran Park

June 3/4 Winton (Cancelled)

Rd4 June 24/25 Mallala

Rd5 August 19/20 Phillip Island

Rd6 October 28/29 Oran Park

Rd7 November 25/26 Eastern Creek

Confirmed as of today.

Kerri · 24 Feb 2006, 05:59 (Ref:1530399)

Entry list for Round 1 Wakefield Park March 4/5 2006

1 Bruce Heinrich GJC Engineers/Pacemaker Headers AU Falcon
2 John Goodacre Gap Solutions/Brice SA VN Commodore
3 Lindsay Gates Ceramic Coat Aust/P & R Electrical VN Commodore
8 Michael Barbara Cash Stop Racing VN Commodore
10 Tony James B.R.E Performance VN Commodore
15 Shawn Jamieson All Panels & Parts/Tonkin Radiators VT Commodore
16 Luke Norris Woodtech/Commodore 2000 VN Commodore
17 Matthew Lovell Batteries Direct/Sportsmed EA Falcon
18 Roger Paterson Sportsmed SA Hospitals VN Commodore
19 Michael Bartsch Bartsch Builders VN Commodore
30 Paul Fiore B.R.E Performance VN Commodore
31 Robert Lonie Gilbert Motor Bodies VN Commodore
34 Steve Kwiatkowski Westport Cars/Eagle Paint & Panel EA Falcon
36 Jake Camilleri Grand Prix Panel & Paint EA Falcon
40 Steve Robinson David Gainer VN Commodore
41 Mark Primmer Dial 100 Before You Dig EA Falcon
42 Brett Bowden Dial 100 Before You Dig EB Falcon
44 Mark Southerland Woodstock Motor Racing VN Commodore
45 John Ierardo Woodstock Motor Racing VN Commodore
46 Paul Pennisi Woodstock Motor Racing VT Commodore
50 Paul Williams Strategic Transport Racing EA Falcon
54 Malcolm Niall Strategic Transport Racing AU Falcon
55 Brett Niall Strategic Transport Racing EA Falcon
60 Peter Dane Cash Stop Racing EA Falcon
68 Kris Walton Talbrace Pty Ltd AU Falcon
72 Clint Harvey Strategic Transport Racing AU Falcon
76 Robert Rubis Sydney Tower Resteraunts EA Falcon
81 Tim Rouse Rowse Motors VT Commodore
82 Geoff Brown Tri-State Racing AU Falcon
86 Tony Evangelou A.N.T Racing EA Falcon
90 Craig Smith Life Tiles/David Hoggins Auto EB Falcon

Kerri · 24 Feb 2006, 06:25 (Ref:1530410)

22 Feburary 2006
Supaloc
The new naming sponsor for TASCCO

Supaloc Steel Building Systems is the new naming rights sponsor for TASCCO, Windscreen banners on all Saloon Cars will proudly carry the supaloc logo.
for further information go to www.tascco.com.au

Vanilla Dice · 24 Feb 2006, 06:40 (Ref:1530415)

I thought Mr SupaLoc was going to rescue Team Dynamite from the precipice??

Or drive his shiny white Lamborghini Gallardo in Targas around the country

Poor old Oscar

Kerri · 24 Feb 2006, 07:50 (Ref:1530452)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Dice

I thought Mr SupaLoc was going to rescue Team Dynamite from the precipice??

Or drive his shiny white Lamborghini Gallardo in Targas around the country

Poor old Oscar

No idea VD, didn't ask, not my business. (but yes he still does have the Lambo)

The owner of Supaloc is an ex Saloon Car competitor and still has a great interest in the category & we are stoked to have him on board

pete55 · 24 Feb 2006, 08:52 (Ref:1530483)

Kerri, any news on new VT/AU's being built?

Rombles1 · 24 Feb 2006, 09:09 (Ref:1530500)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerri

2006 National Championship Calendar Changed

Rd1 March 4/5 Wakefield Park

Rd2 April 8/9 Symmons Plains

Rd3 May 6/7 Oran Park

June 3/4 Winton (Cancelled)

Rd4 June 24/25 Mallala

Rd5 August 19/20 Phillip Island

Rd6 October 28/29 Oran Park

Rd7 November 25/26 Eastern Creek

Confirmed as of today.

Without any intimate knowledge of the politics involved, would this then present an opportunity to head west, and race at Barbagallo some time early in June? (Haven't checked their calendar, it is just thought....)

Kerri · 24 Feb 2006, 10:25 (Ref:1530569)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete55

Kerri, any news on new VT/AU's being built?

This is the list of Confirmed Registered Competitors for 2006 with their respective entered vehicles.
The ones with both models listed will replace their current vehicles with the new ones when completed during the year.

Grant Johnson WA VT Commodore
Kerry Wade WA VT Commodore
Bruce Heinrich SA AU Falcon
Shawn Jamieson SA VT Commodore
Geoff Brown VIC AU Falcon
Duane Wilson ACT AU Falcon
Peter Dane NSW EA Falcon
Michael Bartsch SA VN/VT Commodore
Michael Barbara NSW VN Commodore
Brett Niall WA EA/AU Falcon
Paul Williams WA EA Falcon
Clint Harvey WA AU Falcon
Malcolm Niall WA AU Falcon
Paul Pennisi VIC VT Commodore
Mark Pilatti WA VT Commodore
Mark Sutherland VIC VN Commodore
Kris Walton QLD AU Falcon
Tim Rouse VIC VT Commodore
Johnnie Ierardo VIC VN/VT Commodore
Paul Fiore WA VT Commodore
John Goodacre SA VN/VT Commodore
Brett Carrington VIC AU Falcon
Mark Primmer NSW EA/AU Falcon
Brett Bowden VIC EA/AU Falcon
Jake Camilleri QLD VT Commodore
Matt Lovell SA AU Falcon
Roger Paterson SA AU Falcon
Steve Kwiatkowski SA EA/AU Falcon
Tony James WA VN/VT Commodore
Brad Fox SA EA Falcon
Craig Smith SA EB/AU Falcon
Rob Rubis NSW EA Falcon
Tony Evangelou VIC EA Falcon
Brad Piggott NSW AU Falcon
David Mitchell NSW AU Falcon
Chris Milton SA EA/AU Falcon
John Van Gilst QLD VN/VT Commodore
Robert Lonie SA VN/VT Commodore

Kerri · 24 Feb 2006, 10:28 (Ref:1530570)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rombles1

Without any intimate knowledge of the politics involved, would this then present an opportunity to head west, and race at Barbagallo some time early in June? (Haven't checked their calendar, it is just thought....)

No politics Rombles, Saloon Cars are only running at the CAMS Series events for their Championship, and as there isn't one in WA in 2006 we won't be racing there this year.
If there is a round in 2007 I'm fairly sure we will be going.

pete55 · 24 Feb 2006, 11:04 (Ref:1530599)

Thanks for that Kerri. I guess there is always a chance there will be more updates during the year.

Kerri · 24 Feb 2006, 11:50 (Ref:1530622)

There are actually alot more being built just for State Racing, so I think it is looking pretty good

I will continue to add information to the forum as it becomes available.

Oaksnaf · 26 Feb 2006, 10:51 (Ref:1531805)

Geoff Brown was at Calder Park on the weekend with his AU Falcon, although so was Daryl Coon who was 10 or more seconds ahead in each of the five races. But drivers who have recently been acquiring their CAMS liscence have come along with EB's, EA's, Commodore's, certainly showing that a large proportion of new competitors to Vic motorsport are of the saloon car variety. Should be a big year for the category, thats for sure.

Kerri · 26 Feb 2006, 22:38 (Ref:1532128)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oaksnaf

Geoff Brown was at Calder Park on the weekend with his AU Falcon, although so was Daryl Coon who was 10 or more seconds ahead in each of the five races. But drivers who have recently been acquiring their CAMS liscence have come along with EB's, EA's, Commodore's, certainly showing that a large proportion of new competitors to Vic motorsport are of the saloon car variety. Should be a big year for the category, thats for sure.

Yes we heard about Browney's problem, will be fixed for the National Championship starting this weekend, won't if Geoff

Some final testing was done at Mallala last Friday between the AU/VT & VN so all should be good this coming weekend

Oaksnaf · 27 Feb 2006, 06:00 (Ref:1532242)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerri

Yes we heard about Browney's problem, will be fixed for the National Championship starting this weekend, won't if Geoff

Some final testing was done at Mallala last Friday between the AU/VT & VN so all should be good this coming weekend

Yes Brown had sold his EA Falcon to Travis Moynihan who was desperately trying to beat him, and looked to have Brown under raps until the final few laps. The AU though, looks to have a better drive out of corners than the EA and lap times will probably be a few seconds quicker this year anyway.

I cant remember, but is it a split category between the new and old models, or have they capped the engines of the AU;s etc, and all are going to battle for the same championship??

And Brett Bowden was there at Calder too, but he wasn't racing.

Kerri · 27 Feb 2006, 11:51 (Ref:1532438)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oaksnaf

Yes Brown had sold his EA Falcon to Travis Moynihan who was desperately trying to beat him, and looked to have Brown under raps until the final few laps. The AU though, looks to have a better drive out of corners than the EA and lap times will probably be a few seconds quicker this year anyway.

I cant remember, but is it a split category between the new and old models, or have they capped the engines of the AU;s etc, and all are going to battle for the same championship??

And Brett Bowden was there at Calder too, but he wasn't racing.

Because of the way his car was set up, Travis should have beaten him, but being in a new car will take a bit of time for Travis to get used to.
All that will be fixed for this weekend as stated before.

The AU has reasonable drive out of corners, but Geoff is pretty good at that anyway.

No the AU is not capped as there is no reason for it.
There is very little difference between the EA and AU in all aspects.
i.e. 6 years ago we started 6 seconds slower than they are now & now we have the same knowledge so are able to build cars with the same technology as last years cars, just with newer models.
The equipment is the same, just have a new drawing board to work from.
I believe over this year and in future years, the AU & VT should become faster as they are developed further, but that is expected as parts are updated and replaced.

Oaksnaf · 28 Feb 2006, 07:03 (Ref:1532980)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerri

Because of the way his car was set up, Travis should have beaten him, but being in a new car will take a bit of time for Travis to get used to.
All that will be fixed for this weekend as stated before.

The AU has reasonable drive out of corners, but Geoff is pretty good at that anyway.

No the AU is not capped as there is no reason for it.
There is very little difference between the EA and AU in all aspects.
i.e. 6 years ago we started 6 seconds slower than they are now & now we have the same knowledge so are able to build cars with the same technology as last years cars, just with newer models.
The equipment is the same, just have a new drawing board to work from.
I believe over this year and in future years, the AU & VT should become faster as they are developed further, but that is expected as parts are updated and replaced.

Don't you mean to be talking about Brown, not Travis, as Travis wont be at Wakefield according the entry list anyway.

And I totally agree about the AU/VT's going to get faster as the season travells on.

So is it a split championship or not?

Kerri · 1 Mar 2006, 00:45 (Ref:1533600)

I short cut my sentences sorry.

I meant that because of the way Geoffs car was set up on the weekend, Travis should have beaten him, but because he (Travis) is new to SC it will take him time to get up to speed.

Geoffs car will be fixed for this weekend at Wakefield, not Travis.

No it is definitely not a split championship, as all models are pretty much equal at this stage. But should become faster as the year progresses. Having said that I could be wrong, just basing my comments on previous years of development.

Although, Heinrich has the lap record at Wakefield and that was done in 2002, so who knows

jc1965 · 1 Mar 2006, 10:58 (Ref:1533852)

So is it beneficial if an EA/EB or VN/VP wins the championship this year.......

Kerri · 1 Mar 2006, 13:20 (Ref:1533923)

Doesn't matter either way jc, until we have a full grid of AU's and VT's, the idea is for all models to be equal. We don't want the new models running away from the old ones and vice versa.
We will just have to wait and see this weekend wont we.

Anyway I'm off at 5am, catch you all next week.

**GTRMagic** · 4 Mar 2006, 01:10 (Ref:1535831)

I hope Mr Evangelou gets a little more speed from his EA... Here he is a bit slower than you may have expected

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