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Old 27 Aug 2003, 01:24 (Ref:700186)   #26
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Also - 1987 was the year that Crutch Cam was introduced.

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Old 27 Aug 2003, 07:51 (Ref:700348)   #27
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When one of the WTCC M3's were getting rebuilt (either the Ravaglia/Pirro or Stermitz/Meuviesson one), the TAFE guys asked Peter Flohr is they wanted the car rebuilt as it had come to Australia, or rebuilt to the rules.....

Of course after getting the Eggenberger Fords disqualified from Bathurst '87, what car does he oversee in 1988, a Ford Sierra. Two guesses who wouldn't have offered any help in development

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Old 27 Aug 2003, 08:46 (Ref:700377)   #28
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Tomas Mezera got the Bathurst drive on the strength of the parts he was able to source out of Ford UK RS Main dealers, like a body shell, bare engines, suspension etc etc that nobody would sell to Frank or Tony...

The very car sits unloved and very dusty in the Bathurst Motor Museum
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Old 27 Aug 2003, 08:57 (Ref:700386)   #29
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When one of the WTCC M3's were getting rebuilt (either the Ravaglia/Pirro or Stermitz/Meuviesson one), the TAFE guys asked Peter Flohr is they wanted the car rebuilt as it had come to Australia, or rebuilt to the rules.....

Of course after getting the Eggenberger Fords disqualified from Bathurst '87, what car does he oversee in 1988, a Ford Sierra. Two guesses who wouldn't have offered any help in development
Warrener said to Flohr "Do you want us to put it back together legally or the way you had it"
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Old 27 Aug 2003, 09:08 (Ref:700390)   #30
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And this was off the back of the top 6 BMW M3's getting chucked out of the results at Monza earlier in the year for carbon fibre panels, lightweight bodyshells etc etc allowing the ex-HDT Rothmans Commodore of Moff & Harves to win the first round of the WTCC.
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Old 27 Aug 2003, 10:51 (Ref:700493)   #31
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Fries....

If I order an Eggenberger with the lot would I get Fries too?
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Old 27 Aug 2003, 10:55 (Ref:700499)   #32
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If I order an Eggenberger with the lot would I get Fries too?
Why not Moffat did, I wonder does Pauline like Germany
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Old 27 Aug 2003, 11:19 (Ref:700520)   #33
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Are thye still together? Last I had heard they weren't...hmmm maybe the subject of another thread...
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Old 27 Aug 2003, 11:23 (Ref:700526)   #34
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Does Moff's son Andrew still compete in karts?
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Old 28 Aug 2003, 10:22 (Ref:701589)   #35
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Frank Gardner won several British and European Touring Car Championships/Series in the 60s, as well as a host of sports car races. He raced the Porsche 917 first at the Nurburgring and reconned that it was the worst car he ever drove. Porsche did a lot of redesigning on it and it became one of the great racing cars on the 20th century. He also worked with Sir Jack Brabham, and I believe he almost got the second drive with Brabham in 1966 and 67, but because of several things, Jack gave the drive to Denny. There is a new book about Jack Brabham's life due to be published in December. I recon it will be a good read, and there will be lots revealled.
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Old 29 Aug 2003, 09:42 (Ref:702465)   #36
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Hey is Frank any relation to Wayne????
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Old 29 Aug 2003, 10:18 (Ref:702489)   #37
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NO - Frank is the smart one with heaps of street cred IMHO.
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Old 29 Aug 2003, 10:44 (Ref:702510)   #38
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Franks uncle was a famous Australian racing driver, can anyone guess who?
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Old 30 Aug 2003, 03:39 (Ref:703157)   #39
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Old 30 Aug 2003, 07:02 (Ref:703191)   #40
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Wrong, but they did race at the same time.
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Old 30 Aug 2003, 07:06 (Ref:703193)   #41
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Was it Alan Jones? (Senior).
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Old 30 Aug 2003, 07:24 (Ref:703204)   #42
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No it was not Stan Jones.

We are talking pre war although he did race post war and his last race car was Franks first.
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Old 30 Aug 2003, 07:52 (Ref:703211)   #43
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Sorry I meant Stan Jones. Alan's dad.
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Old 31 Aug 2003, 23:52 (Ref:704385)   #44
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The driverin Question was Hope Bartlett Who was like a father to Frank
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Old 1 Sep 2003, 00:01 (Ref:704389)   #45
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I mainly remember Frank in the Bob Jane Torana Sports Sedan that later went to the World of tyres man Ian Diffen, and then the awesome Corvair, that car was a beast, upset a few of the Sport Sedan guys, but it looked the part , of cource gricey would later take the car over, and it would go from its John Player Colours over to Craven Mild.
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I got Frank's book "Drive to survice" when I was a kid, read it ove and over, it's still on my bookshelf now.

Frank was a guest speaker at a club meeting a couple of years ago, best speaker we've ever had and we've had a few, big names too.
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Gardner in Alec Mildrens Brabham at Lakeside I think
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That sounds pretty close to the money, care to comment Spook?
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