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What do you mean by small? Isn't it nearly 3 km long? 2.9km or something?
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I wouldn't be too surprised to see them at some WEC venues the next day after the race, similarly to how Audi done it in Sebring. Racing it in 2013 is out of the question, IMO.
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Their hybrid GTE car wasnt legal either , and it raced in ALMS .
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Unclassified, and at no risk of "winning" overall. A brand-new LMP1 car though... you wouldn't really want to risk an unclassified car "winning" overall and then having to explain to everyone why it didn't actually win after all despite covering the most distance.
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Porsche asks to enter PLM, do you think they are turned away, because they are 2014 rules cars?
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PLM is probably a strong bet. Porsche doesn't exactly miss marketing opportunities.
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It can and has clearly worked, but I think that it is harder to be an "all around racer" these days in that you are able to excel in different types of cars (GT/prototype/formula) and types of racing (sprint/endurance). I think these days that drivers tend to become somewhat specialized. So being ex-F1 doesn't go very far with me personally (and I am just as big of a F1 fan as I am sports car/prototype fan). I wonder if those who are ex-F1 and are successful in sports car were just in the wrong type of racing (F1) to begin with! Additionally, if I was in charge, I doubt I would be picking drivers who feel that racing sports cars is beneath them, or some sort of backup plan as they ease into retirement. I would want drivers who enthusiastic, want to win, don't consider it a hobby and have shown they can perform "in this type of racing". I don't see why Porsche would feel they would have to break in new drivers regardless of how good their F1 pedigree may have been. I expect to see a mixture of... * Continuity from the RS Spyder program (Patrick Long and others?) * Proven free agent talent from the open market * Some promotion of new talent, but via their own farm system. Quote:
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Porsche may run its LMP1 in 2013, but I don't think this will happen in LM... I suggest they may run the car in some WEC races, it would be a tough test for the car, an interesting comparison with Audi and Toyota. Rivalry with Audi cousins is strong, I think they will not be in LM to show how much competitive the car could be... In WEC races Porsche may have some indications, without show how much car may be fast in LM.
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Understood. I don't think they would do any pre-release testing there, but if they did test at the new track, I would think that would also mean they would be racing at nearby Road Atlanta in the PLM. After Audi and Toyota skipped the PLM, it would be great to see Porsche return with a prototype.
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Never thought of this. What a great send off for the ALMS. Probably sell more than a few tickets too... Low percentage probability of it happening but it should would be cool to see these cars through the esses.
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To me the word discriminate implies some type of litmus test and I think no single factor gives anyone thumbs up/down. I wouldn't say "no" to a driver just because he has F1 experience. I am saying I don't understand the implied preference that I see regarding ex-F1 drivers as a source for future prototype drivers. For example, you mention Heidfeld. If he (or any other ex-F1 driver) has proven himself in prototypes previously (pre, during or post F1 career), I put him in the "proven quantity" category vs. "ex-F1 driver who is looking to get into prototypes". Someone else posted in this thread or elsewhere the same point. I think they tried to show that the bulk of "F1" drivers that could be considered for a prototype top team today have some type of prior prototype experience. I have no doubt there are some ex-F1 drivers who have little or no prototype experience who could potentially be a great prototype racer. But why should someone like Porsche be the ones to experiment and figure out who works and who doesn't? For example I was a big Jacque Villeneuve fan while he was in F1, but by most accounts he was a mediocre to bad prototype racer for Peugot. I think that was a costly experiment for them. With all of that said, from a pure curiosity perspective, I would love to see some ex/current F1 drivers in prototype racing just to see how they would work out. Jenson Button comes to mind. If I was to experiment, it would be with him, but his F1 career is not over yet and I don't see him being enticed into prototypes anytime soon. Richard |
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As do I . Way too much hype about ex-F1 drivers imo .
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In a way I'm dreading seeing a Porsche with honking holes and a Sailfish fin. It keeps awake some nights!
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I hear ya ..... But , we know the ACO arnt entirely happy with the fin thing , so possibily they will have a cunning new idea , and get rid of that abortion !!!
The holes dont bother me at all . Im just looking forward to seeing Porsche's interpretation of the new aero rules , which we dont know yet either ..... so sleep well for the time being Spyder ..... Im more worried about their 991 to be honest . |
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